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Fallujah pullback opportunity, not necessarily agreement to end fight: Abizaid (MUST READ!!!)
AFP ^
| Fri, Apr 30, 2004
| AFP
Posted on 04/30/2004 9:47:18 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Peach
OBL/Saddam link bump
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks, Ernest!
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posted on
04/30/2004 3:53:19 PM PDT
by
Peach
To: cynicom
Talk, talk, talk, spin , spin, spin. And armchair general cynicom knows all from 6,000 miles away.
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posted on
04/30/2004 3:55:14 PM PDT
by
Dane
To: GmbyMan
I don't know if you saw my post about Saddam and AQ connections.
I asked that it be put in either breaking or extended news and it wasn't put in either. Go figure.
But anyway, here it is with lots of links:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1127451/posts
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posted on
04/30/2004 3:55:47 PM PDT
by
Peach
To: priceofreedom
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posted on
04/30/2004 3:56:27 PM PDT
by
Peach
To: lonevoice
The quote, "In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies" isn't attributed on its link. Do you know who said it? That would be Winston Churchill.
To: Polybius
Thanks!
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posted on
04/30/2004 4:35:12 PM PDT
by
lonevoice
(Some things have to be believed to be seen)
To: All
I believe I shall wait one week and see how this bit of news unravels. It appears Gen. Abizaid will be keeping a close eye on this situation. He seems to be quite capable.
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To: Amerigomag
my point is - we did attack them after shaping them into that part of the city. we didn't just let them go.
To: el_texicano
WOW!! Talk about self-fulfilling prophecy.
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posted on
04/30/2004 5:45:08 PM PDT
by
ch53gunner
(ALL ABOARD <train whistle> - - next stop, Damascus)
To: el_texicano
Crap, I guess I'm the only one in FR that makes a frikkin mistake... Your comment made me thing about my past postings on FR. I have concludid that I have never been wrong about anything, and I have neber made any mistakes. I thought you'd like to know this, even though I once (in a fit of passion) suggested nuking the entire earth. :O)
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posted on
04/30/2004 6:05:57 PM PDT
by
Mad_Tom_Rackham
(Any day you wake up is a good day.)
To: olde north church
Of course we are not pulling back! All that we have been hearing in the past few days is a brilliant misinformation campaign, orchastrated by Secretary Rumsfeld.. Within a week, we will occupy the entire city.
This is simply a dodge & feint. Have patience, and trush in President Bush
To: oceanview
my point is - we did attack them after shaping them into that part of the city. we didn't just let them go. Agreed.
My point was that this operation started as a military solution and has now been shifted to a political solution. Every time that occurs it weakens military resolve and the willingness for the feet on the ground to make a sacrifice.
We have indeed reduced both the material and personnel strength of our opponents but we have not, by simple logic, gotten to the leadership within their ranks. My fear, based on published reports which are at best honestly inaccurate, is that the insertion of indigenous personnel will allow, or worse yet enable, this leadership to slip away to organize and kill our troops and civilian support personnel some other day.
I have absolute confidence that Bush has no intention of leaving Iraq before the job is done but I fear that the political pressure created by the US national election cycle will help shape our tactical policies in Iraq until November.
I'm also sure that to force the average foot solder to work with an individual who only months ago was dedicated to their personal destruction is only being accepted because of the ingrained respect for the chain of command in an all voluntary military.
To: Dog; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Loftus up now. The Marines on the ground have cobbled together the cooperative solution that the politicians could not, Loftus claims. Saleh wants the foreign fighters cleared out (is the claim). We are giving him a shot to make good on it. US forces have cut the road between Najaf and Kufa, preventing the flow of Sadr's militia between the cities.
To: liz44040
are you here/ what is going on on the horizon? We had the "Mother of All Hailstorms" here last night. When it wasn't hailing, it was raining, thundering and lightning was flashing so we were all taking cover. Golf-ball sized hailstones hitting a metal building makes a very loud noise.
Never a dull moment 'round here...LOL
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posted on
04/30/2004 10:26:12 PM PDT
by
Allegra
(Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, MUSHROOM!)
To: olde north church; All
Wretchard has posted a good analysis of this situation over at Belmont Club...
http://belmontclub.blogspot.com
"But although the 82nd Airborne had been training the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps around Fallujah for months, the provenance of the Fallujah Protection Army is still unexplained. One of the most difficult operations of war is relieving a unit in contact with the enemy. It first of all requires the existence of the relief force. News accounts which suggest that this-still-to-be formed Fallujah Protection Army (FPA) will take over from the Marines, said to be evacuating "front line positions" within a few days, are only slightly less incredible than a report that Batman, the Hulk and Wolverine have joined the Navy to see the world. The news up this point has raised more questions than it has provided answers...
...The most likely scenario is that the FPA will be given charge over city areas free from heavy fighting and assigned general police duties. Those who perform meritoriously in this on the job training could be given regular ranks in the new Iraqi Army, a common relationship between paramilitaries and regulars..."
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posted on
04/30/2004 10:32:28 PM PDT
by
Mr.Atos
To: cynicom
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posted on
05/01/2004 1:16:58 AM PDT
by
jaykay
(Don't expect reasonable conduct from human beings; most are candidates for protective restraint.)
To: No Blue States
...what scares me most is the majority of negative posts on FR today.
Really? What gives me a bit of hope is the negative posts on FR today. These posts tell me that at least some conservatives have standards and hold their President accountable. We aren't all GOP versions of clinton's kool aid guzzlers. We expect more from our leadership.
If by some strange twist, France had been part of our coalition and their forces had been in charge of Fallujah and pulled this BS, you and everyone else on FR would be ripping them to shreds right now, and rightly so.
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posted on
05/01/2004 1:30:09 AM PDT
by
jaykay
(Don't expect reasonable conduct from human beings; most are candidates for protective restraint.)
To: Blood of Tyrants
I keep telling you that the attack is coming this weekend. Bush will let slip the dogs of war tomorrow or Sunday at the latest.
Hope you're right.
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posted on
05/01/2004 1:32:44 AM PDT
by
jaykay
(Don't expect reasonable conduct from human beings; most are candidates for protective restraint.)
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