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Bush Rebukes Agency for Releasing Papers
AP ^ | April 29, 2004

Posted on 04/29/2004 7:33:53 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort

WASHINGTON (AP) - In his meeting Thursday with the Sept. 11 commission, President Bush expressed strong disapproval of his Justice Department for releasing documents that Republicans are using to criticize a Democrat on the commission.

On Wednesday, some congressional Republicans declared that newly released material posted on the Justice Department Web site shows that panel member Jamie Gorelick was involved in action that may have weakened the nation's defenses against terrorism. Gorelick was the No. 2 official at the Justice Department during the Clinton administration.

``The president was disappointed'' over the release of the documents on the department Web site and ``we were not involved in that,'' said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

Bush's disapproval was relayed to the department, and ``the president does not believe we ought to be pointing fingers. ... We ought to be working together to help the commission complete its work,'' McClellan said.

Department spokesman Mark Corallo declined to comment.

Some congressional Republicans who requested the documents say Gorelick helped develop 1995 guidelines that made it difficult for FBI counterintelligence agents to share information with prosecutors and criminal investigators.

Former New York U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White, a Democrat who prosecuted several high-profile terrorism cases, wrote former Attorney General Janet Reno that ``it is hard to be totally comfortable'' with the legal guidelines because ``the most effective way to combat terrorism is with as few labels and walls as possible.''

While the White House first weighed in on the Justice Department's dispute with Gorelick on Thursday, Attorney General John Ashcroft kicked off the criticism two weeks ago by releasing a 1995 Gorelick memo that he said laid the groundwork for the wall separating criminal and intelligence investigations.

After Ashcroft released the first memo two weeks ago, House Judiciary Committee chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., called on Gorelick to resign from the commission, saying that the document presents a conflict of interest with her current duties.

Republican members of Congress, who requested the documents, have been calling for Gorelick herself to testify before the commission about the wall, which has been blamed for delays and communication breakdowns before the Sept. 11 attacks.

Gorelick and Thomas Kean, the Republican chairman of the Sept. 11 commission, have said there is no need for Gorelick to step down or testify. They have noted that Ashcroft's department issued a memo in August 2001 that kept in place the wall despite his criticism that it was the main structural impediment contributing to the attacks.

The Justice Department began erecting the legal wall during the 1980s, interpreting a 1978 statute governing clandestine wiretaps.

Sensenbrenner says Gorelick's memo put in place a ``heightened wall'' prohibiting information sharing.

Eleven senators are seeking Gorelick's public testimony and 21 Republican House members are calling for her to step aside. Seventy-five House members signed a letter circulated by Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, questioning Gorelick's impartiality and calling on her to help provide a fuller account of her role in shaping how intelligence was shared.


TOPICS: Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commission; ashcroft; bushtestimony; doj; gorelick; gorelickmemo

1 posted on 04/29/2004 7:34:03 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Wink. Now, let me slap your hand.
2 posted on 04/29/2004 7:37:23 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: sinkspur
Yeah, sounds like a game of "good cop"--"bad cop".
3 posted on 04/29/2004 7:40:33 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53
"Yeah, sounds like a game of "good cop"--"bad cop"."

No, it sounds like the same unilateral disarmament that Bush and the Republican Party are known for.

"One of our staffers found a secret strategy memo from Ted Kennedy detailing his plans for obstructing our nominees! My God! Fire him immediately and send a letter of apology to Senator Kennedy!"

Jeeeeesus!
4 posted on 04/29/2004 7:47:03 PM PDT by Formoore04
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To: Formoore04
While I usually defend Bush, I totally disagree with him on this point. I think he spends far too much energy trying to be friendly with the Dims.

They wil NEVER cooperate or be non-partisan. It is simply the nature of the beast.
5 posted on 04/29/2004 7:55:40 PM PDT by arjay ("I don't do bumper stickers." Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: arjay
Then Peter came up and said to him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?"

Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you seven times, but seventy times seven.

I know a lot of people grow impatient with President Bush's efforts to deal with the democrats. I myself keep being reminded of Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown.

But the scripture above (Matthew 18:21-22) is how he behaves. Unlike our last Bible-toting president, President Bush actually believes what he reads in the Bible.

6 posted on 04/29/2004 8:04:49 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Leroy S. Mort
It is the first goal of this "commission" to help President Bush to be a one term President.

The second goal is to help the United States lose the war against the terrorists.

The third goal of this "commission" is to get a democrat back into the White House that will turn the United States into a U.N. Protectorate.

President Bush had better wise up and face rality.

The reality is that these people [democrats, socialists, main stream news media, and communists] rabidly hate him and will do anything in their power to destroy him
7 posted on 04/29/2004 8:09:08 PM PDT by sport
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To: Leroy S. Mort
> President Bush expressed strong disapproval of his
> Justice Department for releasing documents ... shows
> that panel member Jamie Gorelick was involved in action
> that may have weakened the nation's defenses against
> terrorism.

Objection sustained, but the jury heard it anyway :-)

> ``the president does not believe we ought to be
> pointing fingers. ... We ought to be working
> together to help the commission complete its work,''
> McClellan said.

So what does this really mean? It was a warning shot
across the bow of the Commission's little attack boat.

If the Commission "points [partisan] fingers", they
can expect to have them bitten off.

Further, the Commission now has to decide what to do
about Ashcroft's little bomb. Does the final report
ignore it? Bury it in the footnotes? Spin it? Paper it
over with attacks on the Bush Admin?

It will be interesting to watch.

Meanwhile, the public knows that this Commission is like
the UN's Sub-Commission on the Promotion and Protection
of Human Rights, which has an Algerian as Vice Pres.

That flushing sound you hear is credibility.
8 posted on 04/29/2004 8:09:13 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: Miss Marple
Jesus also told us to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.

If Bush is trying to follow Scripture, I applaud him. However, I do not agree with how he handles them.

I have the healthiest of respect for Jesus and the teachings of Scripture. I just don't agree that the passage you cite is applicable here. While we are to forgive repeatedly, that does not mean we should purposely put ourselves in the position to be repeatedly abused.

No big disagreement here, I just wanted to express my humble opinion. All Christians struggle with how to apply certain of the teachings of Jesus. That is why we are saved by grace :)
9 posted on 04/29/2004 8:33:14 PM PDT by arjay ("I don't do bumper stickers." Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: Miss Marple
Perhaps you are right ... but deep in my heart I have a sense that if Jesus were around today, he'd have more trouble than Bush has... If he walked on water and turned water into wine, the Liberal press would report:

Jesus found unable to swim

allegations swirl of Jesus secretly making alchoholic beverages


10 posted on 04/29/2004 9:24:57 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com - I salute our brave fallen.)
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To: arjay
They wil NEVER cooperate or be non-partisan.

That's not true. They cooperate with Dubya on a lot of things, just not so much on judicial nominees. The confusing part is that while they're cooperating with Dubya, they're dissing him in the press.

11 posted on 04/29/2004 9:27:12 PM PDT by squidly (I have always felt that a politician is to be judged by the animosity he excites among his opponents)
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To: Miss Marple
That applies to relationships between brothers- ie, between individuals who have no higher obligation.

(Just as does the 'turn the other cheek' advice.)

But this is not an issue between individuals, this is an issue of the obligations of leaders, of government and authority, and so, officials are different from unencumbered individuals in that they are granted the authority of the sword and law OVER each individual, at least so long as they abide by the limits of their authority. The sword spoken of in Romans, the authority granted to government by God, is not merely the officials' to throw away in acts of unlimited forgiveness. As officials, they are obligated to use the sword of authority to protect what they are there to serve. They can use the sword officially and still personally forgive the person they are using it on, after all, but they are obligated to lead, not allow evil to take the bit between its teeth and so define the direction of government. But officials cannot forgive AND fail to enforce, they cannot overlook injustice done to others or ignore evildoers in the interests of 'forgiveness' - as if forgiveness somehow means the same thing as letting people continue being evil without some form of just punishment.

It is the government's - and by extension, its executive officials' duty and obligation to avenge, to enforce- it would be sinful to do otherwise. And it is morally wrong to undercut honorable officials or let them be struck or destroyed by evil simply because you as a leader confused the act of forgiveness with the less noble act of overlooking. In the process you might discover your 'divine right leader license' had been revoked because you defaulted on the agreement. It's happened before...

When officials- presidents or Senators or DOJ appointees and run of the mill bureaucrats- fail to do their jobs, or commit crimes or violate ethical standards, they must be brought to justice, and SOMEONE must do that job. In our sytem that responsibility falls on the executive branch in every case except when a President errs, in which case the responsibility lies with Congress, and when all of it fails, it's the people's job to give the culprits or their supporters the boot. No official is granted the right to 'forget' his duties and overlook ethical or criminal offenses in the name of forgiveness or any other reason- not unless God is in the habit of handing out swords just for decoration.

The 9/11 commission has forsaken its duty, if indeed some of them ever intended to carry it out in the first place. this is nothing new; the Senate Intelligence committee has also forsaken their duty, and also the Judiciary committee, and all those leakers out there whoever they are.

It's the Justice Department's job to seek justice, not to help insulate evil from exposure, not to help the President convince us to believe an illusion that the 911 commission is helping us in the WOT or 'doing its work.' It's not their job to paper over conflicts of interest, or protect officials from being held accountable for poor decisions so they can continue to be in positions that enable them to make more bad decisions. The department should not be slapped down for revealing the truth or for uncovering ethical failings and corruption, particularly in cases where national security is involved.

Unfortunately, not only have the rats been 'forgiven,' they have also enjoyed the pleasure of being granted a free pass from the avenger's sword for years and years now, and that is terribly and dangerously wrong. The stench of corruption is overwhelming but no one sems willing to clean it up, not even the buzzards. We might *gasp* offend someone if we point out that they stink...

Then Peter came up and said to him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?" Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you seven times, but seventy times seven.

He said that to the individual Peter, not to the governor Pontius Pilate. The job of the first was to spread the good news, the job of the latter was to govern.

; )

12 posted on 04/29/2004 11:37:51 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa
Oops. forgot my disclaimer:

* I am not a theologian. I couldn't even play one on TV.

13 posted on 04/29/2004 11:49:42 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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