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Britain could be forced out of the EU, warns Chirac
The Times ^ | April 29, 2004 | CHARLES BREMNER IN PARIS

Posted on 04/29/2004 3:42:40 PM PDT by Eurotwit

Britain could be forced to leave the European Union if its voters reject the proposed new constitution in a referendum, President Chirac suggested today.

The French leader, who is resisting pressure to commit himself to a referendum in France, noted that if any state failed to ratify the constitutional treaty then none of the other members would be able legally to ratify it either - scuppering the whole project.

At a press conference to convince a sceptical France of the merits of the expanded EU, M Chirac referred to proposals aired in Brussels and Berlin that would require member nations to ratify the constitution or leave the EU.

This could be a "positive solution", said M Chirac. "I am not against the idea of using methods of friendly persuasion with countries that are refusing the constitution, because that blocks all the others."

Made in answer to a question about Britain, M Chirac's remarks reflected his exasperation over Tony Blair's decision to put the constitution to a risky plebiscite.

The President said that he was confident that the constitution would be settled by leaders in June. He insisted that he would not be rushed into a French referendum, but would take a decision after the treaty was signed and then examined - probably next year - by the French constitutional authority.

M Chirac said that Britain was in a different situation from France because it did not have a written constitution. He said he had no comment on Mr Blair's "political decision", but added: "I do not imagine that England could find itself in the situation of having to leave Europe."

He also kicked into the long grass the prospect of Turkish membership of the Union. EU leaders are expected to approve entry negotiations with Turkey in December, but Ankara's membership remains highly unpopular in France, where it has been rejected outright by M Chirac's own Union for a Popular Majority (UPM) party.

"Turkey is destined to be an EU member but is not ready and will probably not enter the EU for ten to 15 years," said M Chirac.

M Chirac's Turkish chill contrasted with the glowing image that he depicted of the enlarged Union as he sought to assuage fears that France was losing influence in a Europe of 25 members.

"With its 450 million inhabitants, the Union is asserting itself as a first-class economic power, where growth and investment will create a new dynamic in the service of employment," he said. Fears that the French identity would be "diluted or abandoned" were unfounded, he said.

EU polls show France to be the most hostile of existing member states towards Saturday's "big bang" expansion, but a French national survey this week showed that 64 per cent are now in favour.

Pressure is building from across the French political spectrum for a popular vote on the Constitution rather than ratification by Parliament. According to polls, 75 per cent of the public want a popular vote. The President is reluctant to stage one because of the strong possibility of a 'no' from a public that is unhappy with his presidency.

Mr Blair's referendum has raised the stakes for M Chirac, whose personal popularity has sunk 11 points to 44 percent over the past month.

Talk of the possibility of Britain effectively voting itself out of the EU has become widespread in Europe since Mr Blair's surprise decision.

French, German and other politicians from core EU states say they would regret a British departure but a 'no' would finally end the continent's patience with Britain's semi-detachment to the EU and its historic resistance to deeper integration.

A more diplomatic version was voiced in London yesterday by Valery Giscard d'Estaing, the former French President who led drafting of the constitution treaty.

"In the case of a 'no', "Britain will not be in the core of the system, but at the margin of the system," he said.

Under a"ratify-or-leave" scheme devised by the EU Commission, the 25 member states would first approve and ratify a separate treaty which gave countries two years to endorse the Constitution or give up membership. Departing states would retain their existing EU rights on trade and movement as associate members like Norway and Switzerland.

However, this scheme is highly unlikely to come about because of the initial need for approval by all member states.

M Chirac makes regular television appearances and holds frequent media briefings, but his 90-minute session in the Elysee's gilded Salle des Fetes, was a rare exercise in the tradition of set-piece press conferences that were founded in the late 1950s by the late President de Gaulle.

He used the occasion to reassert his authority after his Government, led by Jean-Pierre Raffarin, suffered a hammering in national regional elections last month. He restated his confidence in M Raffarin and attempted to reassure the country that the Government could meet his promises to soften cuts in the welfare state, while also shrinking the budget deficit that has put France in Brussels' bad books.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: eu; euconstitution; europeanunion
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Chiraq at it again.
1 posted on 04/29/2004 3:42:41 PM PDT by Eurotwit
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Is this a threat, or a promise? Either works for me!
2 posted on 04/29/2004 3:45:11 PM PDT by Threepwood
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To: Eurotwit
This could be a "positive solution", said M Chirac. "I am not against the idea of using methods of friendly persuasion with countries that are refusing the constitution, because that blocks all the others."

How about a real federal constitution, with accountability, seperation of powers, checks and balances, and recognition of fundamental individual rights?

3 posted on 04/29/2004 3:45:58 PM PDT by jdege
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Britain could be forced out of the EU........Britian could be so lucky?
4 posted on 04/29/2004 3:47:12 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (god, I hate politicians)
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To: B.O. Plenty
I'm with you. The Brits should just walk away from the entire mess.
5 posted on 04/29/2004 3:49:38 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Eurotwit
Britain could be forced to leave the European Union if its voters reject the proposed new constitution in a referendum, President Chirac suggested today.

Whats the downside?

6 posted on 04/29/2004 3:50:40 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Terrence Maculiffe-Ariolimax columbianus (hint- its a gastropod.....)
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To: B.O. Plenty
Correct!
7 posted on 04/29/2004 3:50:49 PM PDT by Paul Ross (The New Minority Group: Take an Engineer to Lunch Today!)
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To: Eurotwit
So much for being a "Conservative"...
8 posted on 04/29/2004 3:50:52 PM PDT by MegaSilver (Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
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To: Mears
It's the best decision they could ever make.
9 posted on 04/29/2004 3:51:00 PM PDT by Parmy
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warns Chirac

The use of these two words in the same sentence just makes me laugh.
10 posted on 04/29/2004 3:55:09 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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Britain could be forced out of the EU, warns Chirac ^

'Soviet Union = 'European Union'

/sarcasm

(The 'Wall' is finally,......no longer 'needed'...?)

/scarism

11 posted on 04/29/2004 3:55:21 PM PDT by maestro
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To: Eurotwit
This could be a "positive solution", said M Chirac. "I am not against the idea of using methods of friendly persuasion with countries that are refusing the constitution, because that blocks all the others."

Then why have the vote? Just put out an edict and if they like it they can accept - if not then they can leave.

12 posted on 04/29/2004 3:55:28 PM PDT by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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To: jdege
They do not want a true federal republic. Chirac and the eurocrats are trying to establish the aristocracy of the unelected and unremovable beareaucrat.

The French and Germans have to have all nations subserve themselves to the euro currency in order to fulfill the EU's promise of replacing the USA as the world's superpower. This means surrendering sovereignty to the EU.

If the EU was serious about a constitution they would demand all nations surrender their foreign policy to the EU and ONLY the EU could speak for all in front of such bodies as the UN.

Chirac probably wants England out. France has to hide the oil for food debacle.
13 posted on 04/29/2004 3:55:51 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
The Surgeon Generals warning over cigarette smoking's long term effects strikes more fear than any warning given by Chirac
14 posted on 04/29/2004 4:00:03 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Eurotwit
Britians sovereignty depends on them staying out of the EU. For the life of me, I can not imagine why any nation would allow some unelected bureaucRats in Brussels to dictate anything to them.
15 posted on 04/29/2004 4:00:16 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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Made in answer to a question about Britain, M Chirac's remarks reflected his exasperation over Tony Blair's decision to put the constitution to a risky plebiscite.

Imagine the nerve of it. Letting the people decide in a "risky" plebiscite

The President said that he was confident that the constitution would be settled by leaders in June.

That's more like it. Let the leaders decide. Can't have the great unwashed deciding their own futures. And the French think America is arrogant.

16 posted on 04/29/2004 4:00:27 PM PDT by Timocrat (I Emanate on your Auras and Penumbras Mr Blackmun)
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M Chirac's remarks reflected his exasperation over Tony Blair's decision to put the constitution to a risky plebiscite

Oh, sure. We can't have the people voting on whether or not to give up the sovereignty of their coutries' to a bunch of jackals who have no accountability. The European Union is exactly what Hitler had in mind in 1938. Imagine: a whole continent of slaves.

17 posted on 04/29/2004 4:01:31 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Eurotwit
A decision about the EU will be made democratically? Sacre bleu, we can't have such an outrage!
18 posted on 04/29/2004 4:07:07 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: longtermmemmory
Its a good bet that without Britain, the EU will collapse or if not, become nearly worthless as an economic player. Politically, the EU is a disaster for the people of Europe, at least those who still think they have some measure of liberty.
19 posted on 04/29/2004 4:07:13 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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Britain could be forced to leave the European Union if its voters reject the proposed new constitution....

Hey guys, we have room for ya'll. Come on over!

The French leader..

Always good for a laugh.

LVM

20 posted on 04/29/2004 4:09:15 PM PDT by LasVegasMac ("If everything is just barely under control......you are not going fast enough" - MA.)
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