Music Industry Sues More Computer Users

Yahoo! News ^ | April 28, 2004 | TED BRIDIS

[El Conservador]

F RIAA!!!

And they can kiss my big, fat, light brown ass!!!

OTOH, it's nice to see them self-destroying.

[MegaSilver]

F RIAA!!!

And they can kiss my big, fat, light brown ass!!!

For upholding their copyrights?

[My2Cents]

They have a right, no doubt, to go after the perps, but considering much of the crap that gets passed off as "music" and "talent," the recording industry should be forced to give the stuff away.

[longtermmemmory]

If they are suing students in college just by the IP #, how do they know who was using the computer?

How can they PROVE the person does not already have cd of any song or title?

The reason they are suing the weak is because one strong opponent will rip holes in their actions.

Besides, the law frowns on "John Doe" suits. (lawyers used to pull this manure when they had a statute of limitations problem and were trying to file a generic suit to save a claim.)

[SZonian]

You know what's really funny? There was a business article out a couple of weeks ago that showed CD sales were actually UP over 10% even with online music sharing.

They're going to shoot themselves in the foot with this if they don't quit it.

I guess too much money is not enough, get the sales and the lawsuits.

Oh well, off to Best Buy to see what's new on the CD rack.

Cheers!

[plain talk]

Good points. The burden of proof is on the RIAA. Suing college students? Makes me want to puke.

[BlazingArizona]

For upholding their copyrights?

Okay, just save the lawyers the trouble and mail the RIAA a check for whatever you were putting aside to send your kids to college. That's the "settlement" they're trying to extort in each of these cases.

[SamAdams76]

I found a great classical label called NAXOS. They sell the entire classical repertoire for about $6.98 per CD. Recordings are professionally done by well-known orchestras (mostly from Europe). In addition, they are releasing a lot of older performances at a budget price. For example, I recently got from NAXOS a recording of Mahler's 2nd symphony (recorded in 1924) that was re-mastered off old 78 records. Very interesting listening too as that performance was recorded the way that Mahler intended (the conductor having known Mahler in real life) and it sounds nothing like how it is typically recorded today.

I mention all this because there is an alternative to the crap that the record industry is putting out and trying to gouge us on.

[MadelineZapeezda]

I saw Napster gift cards in Kroger's yesterday. I didn't know they sold them.

[rwfromkansas]

[rwfromkansas]

[AFreeBird]

You know, you can make the image you post a link to another site, especially since the link provided is part of the image and cannot be copied and pasted.

Try this next time (substitute <'s & >'s for the ['s & ]'s)

[A HREF="http://www.the-url.com"] [IMG SRC="http://www.your-image-source.com"] [/A]

[Amerigomag]

Recording artists should have a defensible right to the work product of a live performance. Beyond that their rights should be determined by their actions.

If artists knowingly allow their work product to be broadcast on a public airway then their work product becomes part of the public domain.

Screw RIAA. They are picking on college students because most students have very little knowledge and less money to defend themselves properly.

[PRND21]

I agree completely.

[Mr Ducklips]

Consider it part of their tuition. If you screw song writers and performers, expect to get screwed in return. Otherwise, let's press for more laws that aren't enforced and call ourselves Handgun, Inc.

[Johnny Crab]

And there are THOUSANDS of "non-industry" musicians here at decent prices(Read:no middleman/RIAA): http://www.cdbaby.com/home .

CD Baby is a little online record store that sells CDs by independent musicians.

[In•de•pen•dent: (adj.) Not having sold one's life, career, and creative works over to a corporation.]

Current Numbers: 61,293 artists sell their CD at CD Baby. 936,047 CDs sold online to customers. $7,460,216.03 paid to artists.

And if you like bass and drums try these via CD Baby: http://www.clatter.com/pages/about.html

[Amerigomag]

If you screw song writers and performers, expect to get screwed in return.

The only people being taken are the tax payers when the songwriters and performers are allowed to use the public airways to promote their work product for their own personal gain.

Let them use the public airway AND retain their work product protection but charge them a user fee for the service.

Say $100,000.00 for every performance ported over broadcast televising and $5.00 for for every instance their music is ported over broadcast radio.

If an industry wants to use taxpayer supported infrastructure to personally enrich themselves let them pay for it.

Until they are willing to pay for the use of a public supported infrastructure then their work product is in the public domain and it's not for profit use is at the sole discretion of the public.

[Mr Ducklips]

Public-supported infrastructure? Of what? Electro-magnetic waves? The only cost is to the broadcasters buying the rights from the FCC to use them.

On the other hand, who do you think builds the towers, the buildings, buys the equipment, pays the personnel to produce the programs, and the royalties to the artists they play? Here's a clue: It ain't the taxpayers.

[Amerigomag]

The only cost is to the broadcasters buying the rights from the FCC to use them.

Correct.

...and it's high time that others who profit from the public goodwill and still claim the status of an injured party pay their share as well.

They can't have it both ways. Government support of their livelihood and protection when the rest of the public enjoys those same benefits.

The issue at hand is use of a publicly licensed communication medium, not theft of work product. If it were a simple case of theft of work product, we would have all been sued years ago for giving Christmas presents to our children.

As I said in my original reply: Screw RIAA!