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Kerry Demands Bush Prove Guard Service (There He Goes Again)
Yahoo Politics ^ | 4-27-04 | NEDRA PICKLER

Posted on 04/26/2004 9:28:23 PM PDT by Lance Romance

Kerry Demands Bush Prove Guard Service

By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press WriterJohn%20Kerry">web sites), a decorated Navy veteran criticized by Republicans for his anti-war activities during the Vietnam era, lashed out at President Bush (news - web sites) on Monday for failing to prove whether he fulfilled his commitment to the National Guard during the same period.

Conservative critics have questioned whether Kerry deserved his three Purple Hearts for battle wounds, an issue the Democratic presidential candidate sought to put to rest last week by releasing his military records. On Sunday, a top Bush adviser criticized Kerry for leading anti-war protests after he returned from the battlefield.

"If George Bush wants to ask me questions about that through his surrogates, he owes America an explanation about whether or not he showed up for duty in the National Guard. Prove it. That's what we ought to have," Kerry told NBC News in an interview. "I'm not going to stand around and let them play games."

Kerry's direct criticism of Bush's Guard record reflected an aggressive strategy to challenge the president. It came as Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) used a speech in Missouri to question Kerry's fitness to be commander in chief, and the Bush campaign launched a $10 million television ad campaign criticizing Kerry's Senate votes on weapons systems.

During the primaries, Kerry often deflected questions about Bush's military service although when asked in February whether Bush had fulfilled his Vietnam-era commitment, the Democrat said, "Just because you get an honorable discharge does not in fact answer that question."

In 1992, as Democratic candidate Bill Clinton (news - web sites) faced criticism for avoiding service in Vietnam, Kerry said, "We do not need to divide America over who served and how. I have personally always believed that many served in many different ways."

Democrats have questioned whether Bush fulfilled his obligations to the National Guard in spite of White House claims that he completed his duty satisfactorily. Bush joined the Texas Air National Guard in 1968 and transferred to the Alabama Guard in 1972 while working on a political campaign. How often Bush reported for duty in Alabama is unclear.

Bush supporters have tried to turn Kerry's service in Vietnam — a centerpiece of his Democratic campaign — against him even as they say they honor his service to his country. Kerry released his medical records when questioned about the extent of his war wounds, including a report showing he still carries shrapnel in one leg.

That criticism silenced for the moment, Bush adviser Karen Hughes turned to what Kerry did after returning from Vietnam. Hughes said Sunday she was offended by Kerry's anti-war activities in 1971 and accused him of not throwing back his medals when he and other veterans protested in Washington.

"He only pretended to throw his," Hughes said in a CNN interview. "Now, I can understand if, out of conscience, you take a principled stand, and you would decide that you were so opposed to this that you would actually throw your medals. But to pretend to do so — I think that's very revealing."

Kerry has never said he pretended to throw away his medals. For years, he has said that he threw his ribbons over a fence at the Capitol, not his three Purple Hearts, Bronze Star and Silver Star. He also has said that after the protest he threw the medals of two other veterans.

Nearly 800 veterans "gave back" their medals, ribbons, dog tags and other military items during a protest in April 1971. However, a tape of a television interview Kerry gave shortly after the protest suggested he had claimed that he also threw his medals.

In the exchange, aired Monday by ABC and published in The New York Times, an interviewer asks Kerry, "How many did you give back, John?" Kerry responds, "I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine." The host then notes that Kerry had won the Purple Hearts, and Bronze and Silver stars. Kerry says, "Well, and above that, I gave back my others."

Kerry told ABC on Monday that the terms ribbons and medals were interchangeable. He accused Republicans of trying to discredit his presidential campaign with a "phony controversy."

"The U.S. Navy (news - web sites) pamphlet calls them medals," he said. "We referred to them as the symbols, they were representing medals, ribbons. Countless veterans threw the ribbons back."

Kerry was asked to reconcile two explanations for why he didn't throw his own medals: He told The Washington Post in 1985 it was because he didn't want to personally, and told the Boston Globe in 1996 that he didn't have time to go home and get them.

"I've expressed that there was great, sort of, sense of wrenching about the whole thing," Kerry told ABC's "Good Morning America" in an interview Monday. He noted that the anti-war veterans were conflicted over whether to throw them, and although they voted to do so, "I threw my ribbons. I didn't have my medals. It's very simple."

 

The controversy over the medals overshadowed the start of Kerry's three-day bus tour of four manufacturing states that are expected to be pivotal in this year's election — West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan. Kerry began the tour in Wheeling, W.Va., with a speech accusing Bush of failing to enforce trade rules that protect U.S. workers.



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KEYWORDS: bush; flipflopkerry; gma; goodmorningamerica; kerry; kerrymedals; medaltossing; militaryrecord; pissant
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To: Verginius Rufus
Is Bush's National Guard service going to be the dominant news story in alternate months from now until the election?

LOL

In other news, I bought my first bottle of Hunt's Ketchup today.


21 posted on 04/26/2004 9:48:01 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: claudiustg
All I know is that I hope that Kerry can hold up until June. He's imploding too damn quick. At this rate he may not end up being the nominee.
22 posted on 04/26/2004 9:48:15 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (The new and improved CougarGA7.....firing for range, not effect.)
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To: CougarGA7
I think you're right, Kerry may not make it out of the Big Dem Tent and into the general elections. Edwards might be a likely replacement. Do you know if he endorsed Kerry already?

I think Hillary was tonguing him the other day. I wonder if that's an endorsement?
23 posted on 04/26/2004 9:55:26 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: claudiustg
I think you're right, Kerry may not make it out of the Big Dem Tent and into the general elections. Edwards might be a likely replacement. Do you know if he endorsed Kerry already?


LOL Edwards better hope he didn't, because endorsing Kerry will be the kiss of death.
24 posted on 04/26/2004 10:00:33 PM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (What a Tangled Web We Weave . .when first we practice to deceive!)
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To: Petronski
Did you see the latest Bush ad?

It shows how Kerry voted against the weapons we are using today to fight the War on Terror.

http://www.georgewbush.com/VideoAndAudio/

Click on the one titled "Weapons".

No wonder Kerry is in a tizzy.
25 posted on 04/26/2004 10:01:22 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: FairOpinion
Yes, that ad is quite good. I think ending with a shot of the soldier in the foreground is quite clever. It's as if the soldier is about to say 'remember me.'
26 posted on 04/26/2004 10:03:36 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: FairOpinion
He can't defend his own actions, so tries to attack Bush, again...

Exactly. Like many folks caught in a lie, Kerry tries to change the subject by reflecting the glare to anyone who questions his "inconsistent" statements and actions.

Unlike Clinton, Kerry is NOT an exceptionally good liar. He doesn't perform well under pressure.

27 posted on 04/26/2004 10:03:58 PM PDT by auboy
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To: auboy
Spector sounds a lot like this. He attacks Tommey for not doing anything and calls him a loser.
28 posted on 04/26/2004 10:14:47 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Petronski
The Heinz Company supports Bush.
29 posted on 04/26/2004 10:19:26 PM PDT by hobson
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To: Brimack34
That's the reason Specter needs a trip back home. Toomey would actually vote Republican. Actually, Specter could go help Kerry out. Two peas of a pod.
30 posted on 04/26/2004 10:20:32 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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To: hobson
The Heinz Company supports Bush.

Do they really? Publicly or donations?
31 posted on 04/26/2004 10:28:26 PM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: claudiustg
The reason this is being brought up at this time is to ascertain a candidates fitness for office. BUSH HAS ALREADY PROVEN HE IS FIT TO BE PRESIDENT. (And so far Kerry is not passing the muster).
What doesn't Kerry or his supporters understand about this?
32 posted on 04/26/2004 10:28:42 PM PDT by tertiary01 (Cultures that embrace death are being invaded by the "religion of peace" death religion. How ironic!)
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To: auboy
"Exactly. Like many folks caught in a lie, Kerry tries to change the subject by reflecting the glare to anyone who questions his "inconsistent" statements and actions."

Furthermore it is one of the more juvenile tactics to employ when caught in a lie and can only be pulled off convincingly by a polished liar. Kerry is no Slick Willy. Rove, either by shrewd planning or sheer serendipity had perfect timing with the TV ads of Kerry claiming to have voted for and against the same bill. The ads planted the seed of doubt in the general public's mind about Kerry, the GMA interview made it take root, and the best part is that Kerry did it all by himself at no cost to the RNC. hehe

33 posted on 04/26/2004 10:33:09 PM PDT by flying Elvis
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To: texasflower
Found here:
Although likely Democratic presidential nominee John F. Kerry's wife is an heiress to H. J. Heinz Co., members of the company's board of directors as well as the company's political action committee are supporting President George W. Bush and the Republican Party.

The Fortune 500 ketchup king has contributed $5,000 through its PAC to the Bush reelection campaign and nearly $60,000 to other Republicans candidates.

This is three times as much money as donated to Democratic candidates.


34 posted on 04/26/2004 10:48:52 PM PDT by hobson
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To: Lance Romance
he owes America an explanation about whether or not he showed up for duty in the National Guard. Prove it. That's what we ought to have,"

Kerry had stated that he would NOT use service as an issue in the campaign .... flip-flop again.

Then Kerry spokes hole Mc Auliff basically stated that Guardists and persons with educational deferments were not qualified to talk on military issues.

I guess the DNC geniuses are giving up rhos voting blocks too.

35 posted on 04/26/2004 10:58:21 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (General - Alien Army of the Right (AAOTR))
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To: hobson
Thank you for that information. It's nice to know.
36 posted on 04/27/2004 1:16:35 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: Brimack34
Spector sounds a lot like this. He attacks Tommey for not doing anything and calls him a loser.

It's what liberals do best. When losing the debate, attack the opposition.

IMO, this tactic demonstrates a lack of debating skills and a lack of honesty. Quite lazy and dishonest.

37 posted on 04/27/2004 5:22:12 AM PDT by auboy
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To: Lance Romance
Yeah, so did Kerry fulfill his duty upon returning from Vietnam?
38 posted on 04/27/2004 5:32:24 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Judith Anne
"Where's Kerry's girlfriend, anyway...?"

what girlfriend? Does he have one - please be more specific. If you know something we all don't - don't tease - give us the 'skinny'.
39 posted on 04/27/2004 5:49:00 AM PDT by familyofman
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To: wingster
When are we going to get the full and complete F-ya's military record?
40 posted on 04/27/2004 5:50:50 AM PDT by snooker
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