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OLIPHANT: I WATCHED KERRY THROW WAR DECORATIONS
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Posted on 04/26/2004 5:05:01 PM PDT by hope
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To: hope
Should Oliphant be working as a journalist if he was at the anti-war rally too? I mean, it obviously means he is one-sided on issues such as these. That could explain all the liberal bias spewing out of the press. Could you imagine if newsrooms were full of Oliphants? To make matters worse, his own daughter works for the Kerry campaign!
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posted on
04/26/2004 6:28:30 PM PDT
by
rs79bm
(Insert Democratic principles and ideals here: .............this space intentionally left blank.....)
To: Avenger
I was channel surfing. Perhaps another freeper can tell you exactly.
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posted on
04/26/2004 6:29:22 PM PDT
by
OldFriend
(Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
To: All
Oliphant must have been behind Kerry and next to Richard Clarke.
To: hope
Let's examine the facts. - He is a journalist.
- He is a liberal.
- He works for the Boston Globe in Massachusetts.
- His daughter is on John Kerry's campaign staff.
Why should we possibly doubt his motives or his words ?
To: hope
Kerry said there were cameras and around twenty to thirty still photographers. Why are there no videos or pictures of the event when he threw the medals/ribbons.
Any pics?
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posted on
04/26/2004 6:33:06 PM PDT
by
torchthemummy
(Florida 2000: There Would Have Been No 5-4 Without A 7-2)
To: js1138
Kerry says he was wearing the ribbons. Ribbons are attached to your shirt by clasps similar to those that hold earrings. It would take a considerable amount of time to remove nine ribbons. This could not possibly be mistaken for reaching into a shirt pocket. Not so. There are just two pin like attachments to the shirt. The ribbons are mounted to a frame. You remove the frame, not the individual ribbons.
I find Oliphant's description less than credible. You can put the frame with the ribbons and individual medals in one hand and it would be difficult for someone one foot away to see what is in your hand.
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posted on
04/26/2004 6:33:45 PM PDT
by
kabar
To: hope
"I actually DID throw my medals...before I DIDN'T throw my medals."
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posted on
04/26/2004 6:36:17 PM PDT
by
SerpentDove
("I actually WAS ashamed of my service in Vietnam...before I was proud of it." J. F'n. K.)
To: Thebaddog
"The ribbons would float and swish upon the currents as if like leaves of grass."
The ribbons are on a brass backing and would throw just fine. While they wouldn't make it as far as medals, they would easily make it over the White House fence.
He probably did throw his ribbons and keep his medals. It makes sense. I never wore my medals. I always wore my ribbons. Kerry's medals are probably in a drawer somewhere, just like mine.
Kerry's problem is that he told his anti-war buddies that he threw his medals. Then he told the voters that he didn't throw them. Now nobody believes him either way. The throwing other people's medals could be true, but who could tell?
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posted on
04/26/2004 6:36:21 PM PDT
by
Poser
(Belly Girl is Still Hot!)
To: Avenger
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posted on
04/26/2004 6:38:34 PM PDT
by
hope
(How far will your passion take you?)
To: Diogenesis
"...If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old.
Through his tireless work as a legislator,
(Democrat) Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.
Charles Pierce, January 5, 2003 Boston Globe Magazine"
THAT is a priceless quote!!!! Best laugh I've had today.
-- Joe
To: hope
Throwing medals vs. Throwing ribbons
Both equally disturbing if you ask me. I don't understand why Kerry thought throwing his ribbons would be less despicable. Either way he's a sell-out
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posted on
04/26/2004 6:39:46 PM PDT
by
bethelgrad
(for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
To: blue-duncan
Yep, I think we all agree with that.
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posted on
04/26/2004 6:41:00 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: mass55th
To: bethelgrad
What is great about this is that in explaining it away they have to bring up the fact that he was a war protester, which I am not sure Joe six-pack realizes yet.
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posted on
04/26/2004 6:43:09 PM PDT
by
Tennessean4Bush
(An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
To: TomGuy
I don't understand how someone carries around the ribbons, but not the medals. Why would you separate the two. It is like carrying the trophy, and leaving the inscription at home. Why would you even take them apart? Tjat would be like an olympican taking the medal off the ribbon and putting it in a different place.
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posted on
04/26/2004 6:44:56 PM PDT
by
JBCiejka
( T)
To: hope
["I watched Kerry reach with his right hand into the breast pocket of his fatigue shirt. The hand emerged with several of the ribbons..."
. . .I saw what happened and heard what Kerry said and know what he meant. The truth happens to be with him]
. . .another honest Lib; 'just happened to be there?' Tom 'saw, heard and knows what he meant. . .'Why does Kerry need an interpreter?
Why is truth always less than definitive with any of these people; always filled with gray colorations in a kind of circumlocution of explanations?
And does Oliphant know 'what Kerry meant' the other dozen times that Kerry has given testimony as to what he was doing with the medals that were his; not his; medals-not medals, but ribbons;ribbons;his ribbons -not; someone elses ribbons;not his medals/but ribbons; someone elses ribbons/not his; maybe not his ribbons. . .
"He reached into his shirt. Was Kerry wearing his own shirt; or someone elses?
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posted on
04/26/2004 6:45:18 PM PDT
by
cricket
(Terrorists are weapons of mass destruction. . .)
To: robertpaulsen
WWII ? The Great Generation.
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posted on
04/26/2004 6:46:06 PM PDT
by
ThomasPaine2000
(Peace without freedom is tyranny.)
To: ModelBreaker
" How does one throw a ribbon across a fence?" Throwing medals I can relate too.....its metal, relatively heavy, easy to grip .
However RIBBONS......sounds like something a girlyman would do.
And what about the bar and pin....if attached to the ribbon I guess would have sufficient mass to be effectively hurled.....?
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posted on
04/26/2004 6:46:37 PM PDT
by
spokeshave
(It is, as it was)
To: kabar
Not so. There are just two pin like attachments to the shirt. The ribbons are mounted to a frame. You remove the frame, not the individual ribbonsYou can purchase replacement ribbons mounted three to a frame, but that's not the way they're issued. If you look at the photograph of Kerry at the event, you can see several independently attached bars, at least. He could not have easily removed them with one hand.
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posted on
04/26/2004 6:47:26 PM PDT
by
js1138
(In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
To: Tennessean4Bush
What is great about this is that in explaining it away they have to bring up the fact that he was a war protester, which I am not sure Joe six-pack realizes yet.Swing voters will not see protesting the war as a bad thing. Sad to say, they may not even see throwing away his own medals (if he had done it) as being dishonorable. However, throwing away others men's and keeping his own is going to seem unmanly to almost any voter this side of Ralph Nader.
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