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Can you imagine if we had a retreat complex in the wilderness, with all of our knowledge, communications skills, ability to work, multitude of skills between us from sewing to cooking, weapons, ability to educate the children, ingenuity, creativity, intelligence....how much we could contribute to make such a thing viable?? Such is the thing of my dreams. We could actually pursue LIFE LIBERTY and the pursuit of HAPPINESS and get off the grid. So much money is flushed down the rat hole because of taxes, untilities, cell phones and spurious junk.
Anyway, just a brainstorm and a dream :)))

Indie, it is a lovely dream, but it would be a mistake to attempt to make it work.

The most that you could hope for, would be to live in a community that already contained folks of like mind.

Maybe 30 years ago, it was attempted and was working, for a mildly high fee, you leased an acre and all the folks worked well together and it looked good.

The man who dreamed it up died and his wife brought in a new man, who wanted bunkers of guns, took on the BLM over some road and broke the whole commune up.

The retired couple that I knew had been happy there, until the new man arrived, they had guns, but were not interested in enough ammo for a war.

If you are the leader, then you will soon attract followers as the clintons do. As a follower, then the clintons will soon arrive and take over.

I discovered 50 years ago, that if I liked the husband, then I wouldn't be able to stand the wife or the other way around.

I don't do well with women, they tell me what ______the husband is and I tell them to get a divorce.

It has always bored me to tears to talk to the average wife, the men always talked mining, mechanics or building and that was what I wanted to learn. I started keeping house and taking care of 4 kids at 9 years old, as well as a couple years later, going to the field to drive a tractor all day.

But don't give up your dream, when you do, then you join me.

Waiting for the big sleep.

All my life, I had big dreams and I did get my place in the hills at the end of the road, then I got sick and couldn't keep it, but it was wonderful while it lasted.

75 acres with 2 volcanoes and the biggest rattlesnakes in Arizona. So quiet that you could think and no neighbors, it was in the Black Mountains near Oatman.

If you are living in town now, go and get a country place, we started in Arizona, in 1970, Bill was sick and we had a travel trailer, doctor said it would be nice if you could take him to the desert. That I could do, as I had a 8 acre lot that I had bought years before as an investment.

We slept outdoors, hauled water and had a ball.

Instead of dying, he lived another 30 years.

Dreams, they are the cream of this life.

Hugs,