[waRNmother.armyboots]

So the question du jour is not can anybody verify Bush was drilling in Alabama in 1972, but can anyone verify Kerry drilling in Massachusetts in 1972 (and 1971, and 1970). Is there not irony in that?

[weegee]

John Kerry's only defense this morning on ABC was "We still don't know if George W. Bush was AWOL or not".

The Kerry campaign is a quagmire. Staffers should pull out now.

[stocksthatgoup]

....He pulls up........He shoots.......He Scores!!!
Well Done!!

[Texas_Jarhead]

I had wondered if Hanoi John's contract required in active reserves. You have answered my question in spades. Thanks!

[Blood of Tyrants]

Okay, the first document obligates him to 3 years active duty, 2 years in the Ready Reserve (or some other combination that adds up to 5 years), and 1 year of Stand by reserve.

The other documents seem to support your claims as well. Kerry should have been drilling with the Naval Reserve from Jan 3, 1970 until Jul 1, 1972.

Am I reading them wrong?

[null and void]

So the question du jour is not can anybody verify Bush was drilling in Alabama in 1972, but can anyone verify Kerry drilling in Massachusetts in 1972 (and 1971, and 1970). Is there not irony in that?

DAMM! We should have seen this coming.

They ALWAYS accuse others of what they are guilty of themselves.

Always.

[Grampa Dave]

This is a great find.

[OXENinFLA]

nice......

[no more apples]

Good job. Ping.

[Lost Highway]

I don't think there is irony at all. The Dems have a long history of accusing the opposition of what they know they are guilty of to give the appearance of payback when it comes out.

[XBob]

Warmom,

You are going to ruin our reputation here on the FRee Republic with your sloppy research.

Kerry served his allotted time, and was released from active duty (at his request) and transferred to INACTIVE Reserve (at his request). He served his time and got an honorable discharge.

Look up the records, and his ddForm214, and Release from Active Duty Letter. Released from active duty in 1970 to inactive reserve, released from reserves in 1972.

He was still in the Inactive Reserves however, when he threw 'his' medals away in 1971.

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/military_records.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/Release_From_Active_Duty.pdf

The disputed incident happened 33 years ago this past weekend, on April 23, 1971, when Kerry led the group Vietnam Veterans Against the War in a protest against the war they fought.

Many veterans were seen throwing their medals and ribbons over the fence in front of the U.S. Capitol. At the time, The Boston Globe and other newspapers reported that Kerry was among these veterans.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Politics/Investigation/kerry_vietnam_medals_040425.html

[ThomasMore]

Kerry's middle name is irony. LOL

[Robert A Cook PE]

I'm not really sure that this is really significant....

What IS significant is that Kerry left EARLY from his remaining active duty commitment to go campaign for Congress, AFTER he left Vietnam early to home to this admiral's aide billet in New York.

Small remaining problems are trivial, compared with leaving early while others were still getting shipped over there.

Bush, on the other hand, was at the other end of the fighting/buildup - the USAF had excessive pilots, many WERE combat experienced and had more hours in more modern planes than Bush did in older planes, so Bush was facing competition for flight hours and flight billets.

[F.J. Mitchell]

"Is there not irony in that?"

Only if irony=deciet and double standards.

You nailed ol' Audie he ain't, but the liberal media will still portray him as a heroic saint.

[GOPJ]

Will the press go from "outrage" to "everyone does it" with one revelation?

So the question du jour is not can anybody verify Bush was drilling in Alabama in 1972, but can anyone verify Kerry drilling in Massachusetts in 1972 (and 1971, and 1970). Is there not irony in that?

[Ann Archy]

The Clintons are in the process of bringing down Kerry.....well, Kerry's doing his part, also ..:)

[White Eagle]

In the 1970's, military branches were trading one year of remaining active duty with two years in the Reserves or National Guard. One person came into my ANG unit that way. He had signed up for 4 in the USAF, and left active duty after 3. So he owed 2 years of ANG in trade for 1 year of active duty USAF.

I don't remember the exact year, but it was in conjunction with an overall reduction in force.

And, yes, in order to honor the trade, you had to show up for one weekend each month and a two-week summer camp. I think the USAF called it "Castle" something or another.

[Dante3]

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