Kerry was AWOL from Navy Reserve service

April 25, 2003 | confidential

[waRNmother.armyboots]

John Kerry signed an agreement as part of his naval officer commission to serve at least 3 years on active duty and the remainder of his obligated 6 year service in the Ready Reserves. Ready Reserves are those who must attend drills.

This is the agreement he released with his military records:

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/offcandagr.pdf

You will note that Kerry obligated himself to at least 3 years active duty, and the remainder of a 6 year obligation in the READY (not Standby) Reserves.

He further agreed that while in the READY Reserves (from discharge to 1972) he would perform no less than 48 drills per year and up to 17 active duty days per year, or alternatively 30 active duty days per year.

None of the released records shows any record of his performing these Ready Reserve obligated days in 1970, 71, 72, after which he was transferred to the Inactive Reserves. (This is as of 22 April - he may have released more since then). The only Performance of Duty form released covers 1966. There should be one for every year.

Nor is there any excusal from drilling status in his records, or alternatively, pay and attendance records indicating that he performed any drills in 1970-72 as required of a Ready Reservist.

It was George Bush's alleged non-performance of his obligated reserve duty that caused all the furor last February, yet Kerry apparently can not show his performance of his obligated Reserve duty.

The Kerry campaign has said that his separation from active duty put him in the inactive, non-drilling Naval Reserve so he could run for Congress. This is NOT true, as follows:

This following website record shows his transfer from the Ready Reserves to the Standby (Inactive) reserves did not occur until March 1972, NOT upon his release from Active Duty to run for Congress (1969/70).

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf

And this following form indicates the official transfer from the Ready Reserves to the Standby (Inactive) Reserves did not formalize until July 1972.:

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/servicercrd.pdf

Contrary to what Kerry's minions say, the wording on his Release from Active Duty (to run for Congress) does NOT put him in the INACTIVE RESERVES - it puts him in Inactive Duty status, which includes Ready Reserves with attendant drill obligation. BIG difference - and the confusion is understandable. The legal specifics are Title 10 duty (Active Duty) Green Card) vs.. Title 32 duty (Inactive Duty) Red Card).

Had he been placed in the INACTIVE RESERVES in 1970 upon his release from AD, as Kerry's people suggest, there would not have been the 1972 Transfer to the Standby Reserves form that I show above - he would have already been there.

Also, if the timing of these records is correct, as a drilling Ready Reserve naval officer, in 1970-72 he was somewhat restricted by military regulations in what comments he could make in public regarding statements on the military leadership and the National Command Authority. Yet this is the period of his most public protests and anti-war demonstrations. In fact, his hairdo in the 1970-72 period would not meet Navy standards, and he would be sent home from drill if he had ever attended one.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

His paperwork for release from Active Duty appears to be in order to me.

So is this report really misleading? Seems to me that we are generating a problem for our side here if XBob is correct!

[XBob]

91 - "Explain?..... I'm not sure there is anything here to discredit his service as prescribed....."

You are correct, deport - his time was served and he was honorably discharged. See my last posts.

[XBob]

101 - "So is this report really misleading? Seems to me that we are generating a problem for our side here if XBob is correct!"

This is what really concerns me. Our reputation could go to zilch, like happened with the 'doctored' photos of Kerry and Fonda.

[optimistically_conservative]

What IS significant is that Kerry left EARLY from his remaining active duty commitment to go campaign for Congress,...

Actually, he had extended his active service time past the 3 years max, then asked to be released from that extension.

[Mo1]

Okay, a question - did Kerry actually spend three FULL years active duty? He only spent four months in Vietnam...

Yes he did spend 3 full years on active duty

One doesn't have to spend it all in Vietnam

My only question about the reserve duty is .. I read he was in till 78 and if that is true .. how does that reflect on all the protests he was involved with?

[ilovew]

I have an idea...why don't you go hang out with Smashed-in-face Boy since you're so interested in protecting him?

[XBob]

77 - "Kerry is a creep, but he was not AWOL.
Prove it. Were his teeth there?"

See my recent posts on this thread. His release from active duty and DDForm214 prove it.

[ilovew]

I don't see any proof.

[XBob]

look at the links I provided. They are PDF images of his paperwork. I gave you links, I don't know how to post excerpts.

[colorado tanker]

You are correct. He had no obligation to join a unit or drill in the Ready Reserves. Of course, he would get no points toward retirement and no pay if he decided not to join a unit, but it was his option to take inactive status in the Ready Reserve.

The real issue today seems to be Effing's explanation of his video tape confirming he threw away "his" medals. The explanation I heard on the news this morning was that he says he misspoke at the time and meant to say he threw away his ribbons, not his medals. Of course, there is no distinction whatsoever between ribbons and medals - they represent the same decoration. One is worn on some kinds of uniforms and the other on others, that's all. Effing has told another fib and has flipped (or flopped) on yet another issue.

[ilovew]

I still don't see any proof. Smashed-in-face Boy can say whatever he wants or show whatever he wants. I'm not going to believe anything that comes out of that ugly mouth.

[XBob]

here are the links broken out better, again:

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/DD214.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/Release_From_Active_Duty.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/Honorable_Discharge_From_Reserve.pdf

[XBob]

110 - "Of course, there is no distinction whatsoever between ribbons and medals - they represent the same decoration. One is worn on some kinds of uniforms and the other on others, that's all. Effing has told another fib and has flipped (or flopped) on yet another issue."

True

[XBob]

111 - "I still don't see any proof. Smashed-in-face Boy can say whatever he wants or show whatever he wants. I'm not going to believe anything that comes out of that ugly mouth.
"

Sorry you are an idiotic fool. Why don't you go back to first grade and learn how to read.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I'm not going to believe anything that comes out of that ugly mouth.

Well, I don't either but he hasn't yet spoken on this, and if his paperwork is OK, then we shouldn't accuse him of a falsehood , which he can turn on us and demostrate that we are incorrect.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the insight!

[ilovew]

It's not my fault that you're in love with Smashed-in-face Boy. Why don't you go find him?

[ilovew]

If the rats don't believe Dubya's paperwork, I have no intention of believing Ugly Boy's paperwork.

[optimistically_conservative]

I have an idea...why don't you go hang out with Smashed-in-face Boy since you're so interested in protecting him?

Yeah, I got the same kind of feedback from the Coulter worshippers when she went after Cleland.

I was equally impressed with the depth of critical thought and respect for the power of accuracy then.

Here's an idea. Let's gin up provably false accusations traceable to FR and spread them around so we can look like idiots and add credence to Kerry's rejuvenation of the VRWC - enabling him to then discredit other valid criticism.

[null and void]

OK, on the DD214,

Page 1, 'Authentication' section it says: "CONTINUING ON ACTIVE DUTY AS ENSIGN, USNR"

Page 2. 'Transfer or dischage data' section it says: "RELEASED FROM ACTIVE DUTY AND TRANSFERED TO NAVAL RESERVE"

Huh?