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The Child Support Scam
MensNewsDaily.com ^ | April 24, 2004 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 04/24/2004 8:58:58 AM PDT by RogerFGay

The Child Support Scam

April 24, 2004


by Roger F. Gay

Since the creation of the federal Office of Child Support Enforcement in 1975, government workers and lobbyists for private child support collection companies have been relentless in their efforts to misinform the public about child support payments and collections. A recent article published by WRAL.com in North Carolina provides a typical look at the propaganda effort.

The long title explains the impression that the article is intended to give: "Wake County Child-Support Workers Well-Intentioned But Overburdened; Child-Support Enforcement Needs Short-Changed By County Budget." Before going into detail, let me paraphrase the message; our accomplishments aren't impressive but we want more money anyway.

The background one needs to judge the message has never been presented to the public by the press (that I know of) outside of MensNewsDaily.com and FatherMag.com. Before the federal program was operational, about 70 percent of the amount of child support that was ordered was paid directly by noncustodial parents to custodial parents. An additional amount was paid to the government as reimbursement for welfare entitlements. According to research, divorced fathers (somewhat different for never-married fathers who are more often involved in welfare reimbursement and known to be different from noncustodial mothers) paid 90 percent of what was due, and fully-employed noncustodial fathers paid closer to 100 percent of what was due. Since the creation of the federal child support enforcement program which forces higher payments through expensive government payment systems, the figure previously at 70 percent has dropped to 67 percent. The primary reason for non-payment is that noncustodial parents are not able to pay as much as they have been ordered to pay. And some of the money that is currently paid gets lost in the new system.

The WRAL report begins with an overwhelming statement on the work load of case worker Lewis Jackson. "The Wake County Child Support employee is responsible for nearly 600 cases." What they don't say is that most payments are made voluntarily. No effort is required. When reminders and late notices are needed, they are automatically generated by computer and mailed without any effort being made by a case worker.

"Last year, Wake County collected more than $26 million in child support. Though that is a lot of cash, consider that more than 200,000 parents in the state owe more than $1 billion in payments." What they don't say is that the all payments made through the system, regardless of whether or not a parent has ever been late, are labeled "collections." $26 million in child support was paid in Wake County last year. What they also don't say is that it took more than a quarter century to accumulate the $1 billion arrearage figure. This is not, what might seem to be implied, the amount owed but not paid last year. Not subtracted from the figure are amounts paid off in subsequent years, in other states after parents have moved, settled through legal process, or that should be written off because noncustodial parents have long-since died, become disabled, or are otherwise unable to provide.

"According to Child Support managers, more staff is needed to deal with the problem. But that is not part of Wake County's budget proposal for the coming year." Given that there is no justification for the staff already on hand, and certainly none in an honest view of child support statistics, let's see how moved you are by the example.

"Beth Christo, whose ex-husband owes her nearly $20,000 for the support of their two children, said well-intentioned but overburdened case managers have given her the runaround for three years." "You go to Wake County, and they want to help you, but they just don't have the resources to do it," Christo said. "I have lost my car. I have moved my children twice. There are times when I don't know if I'm going to make it to pay day."

I don't know about you, but that makes me feel sad. What Beth apparently doesn't know is that most of the "collections" process simply involves waiting until a bloke can pay something. Sometimes payments are much more greatly delayed because threats connected to unreasonably high orders create psychological aversion to staying in contact with the system which in most cases is now the only legitimate point of payment. What to do? Let's look at the suggestion.

"Wake County Child Support Director Lillian Overton asked for 17 permanent positions in the next county budget. The request was denied by Wake County Human Services."

There is no word on why Beth's ex-husband is behind, but if he's typical, it's because he can't pay what has been ordered. Putting more workers on the government payroll won't help unless he's one of the people hired; perhaps providing the income he needs to make payments. I really have no personal knowledge regarding Beth's situation, but there are many noncustodial parents who can't make the payments they've been ordered to make. It is a fundamental consideration in setting child support amounts properly, that the amounts are based on what parents are able to provide. When circumstances change, such as loss of employment, timely adjustments need to be made to the amounts they are ordered to pay, so that uncollectable debts don't pile up – as they do now – giving the impression that more collection agents are needed. Custodial parents need to adjust their budgets and spending habits just like married couples and single adults would under similar circumstances. Just because a mother is divorced, doesn't guarantee a particular standard of living.

The lobbying effort is aimed at Wake County Manager David Cooke who presents budget requests to the county commission on May 17 subject to a final vote in mid-June. What should concern Wake County residents as well as people throughout the country, is the extent to which child support program employees misrepresent the status, benefit, and needs of their program. It is extremely unethical for government workers to mislead the public, and quite strange just that child support program employees are allowed to participate in lobbying activities as part of their official duties. Nothing lies within the ethical box except to accurately report as required. What really needs to be examined is whether program managers are violating ethical practice standards to such a degree that it is inappropriate to allow them to continue to hold positions of responsibility.

Roger F. Gay



Roger F. Gay is a professional analyst, international correspondent and regular contributor to MensNewsDaily.com, as well as a contributing editor for Fathering Magazine.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: cowardinsweden; deadbeatdad; scam
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To: TheSpottedOwl; sauropod; hellinahandcart; Lil'freeper; big'ol_freeper; no_problema; clyde asbury; ..
Introduction to the Income-Shares Child Support Guideline
61 posted on 04/25/2004 9:05:46 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: sauropod
OK..what was your case.
62 posted on 04/25/2004 12:12:57 PM PDT by Hildy (A kiss is the unborn child knocking at the door.)
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To: RogerFGay
I remember the Child Support Guideline. I never knew this stuff existed until I got a divorce.

Everytime the government gets involved, the most simple things turn into quicksand.
63 posted on 04/25/2004 2:33:11 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Divorce issues have been around since forever as far as we know. But as soon as the fed gets involved; the first thing we have to understand is that nobody knew nothin' before the current batch came into office and we have to start making everything up from scratch. Of course, you should ignore the strange man behind the curtain who's pulling in lots of cash from new federal funding sources. It's really for the children.
64 posted on 04/26/2004 6:10:36 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
See, that's another thing I didn't know until recently. The Federal government giving money to states for collecting CS. I thought there was something in the constitution that prevented the Feds from sticking their noses into state business? Lol, yeah I forgot how they beat everyone over the head with highway funds.

For the children? A thought occured to me several years ago when partial birth abortion became known. Until that child fully enters the world and the cord is cut, he/she is yours. After that baby takes his first breath in the delivery room, he/she belongs to the government.
65 posted on 04/26/2004 8:06:00 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Not only that, but now that the fed has totally destroyed marriage and family as a legal concept, and is forcing it to stay that way with billions in annual funding and intrusive government controls, both candidates are saying it's not their problem because family policy is a state issue.
66 posted on 04/26/2004 8:28:38 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
I'm trying to teach my kids to go back the "the old ways". It's hard to avoid the government, though.

All government is a mess. I posted about something I'm dealing with, somewhere on FR over the weekend. I'm stalling about it, because I know that by the time I get someone on the phone, my phone battery will go dead, like it did last time.

We have to also take into account, that the majority of divorces are ugly. My ex's lawyer lied to the judge about preparing the QDRO. We were divorced in 2001. I had a civil conversation about the transportation problems he and his wife are having regarding all the kids recently, since they've moved. He said his blood pressure was up, and he was on medication. Also, his wife had 3 days of testing at a major university medical center. Now if he kicks the bucket before I do, the youngest child needs to be protected. He needs to take care of that QDRO, so that I can take care of her should something happen to him.

The problem is, if he smells blood he'll use it against me. He's compulsive like that. So I won't be telling him what's going on with me, because I'm supposed to avoid stress. Ha ha.

Well if people could cooperate and behave themselves in the first place, there wouldn't be so many divorces. Isn't it nice that both candidates know how to bounce that ball right back at us? It's a state issue, controlled by the government. Besides child support collection, have you seen the industry that has cropped up from seizing children from their homes? Did you know that the government has put a bounty on each child that can be taken and adopted out?

My bookmarks are a mess, but I think I have it somewhere about CPS, the state, and the government money given for each adoption. I think we're already in the gulag.
67 posted on 04/26/2004 10:11:48 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Understanding the problem means understanding that courts used to make judgments based on reasonable judgments, what was true. Now that the Constitution has been abolished in relation to family issues, every family related decision is politically controlled, en masse. That's a very, very bad thing that invited corruption. We've got way too much of that now, and what we must have to fix it is a return to constitutional standards ... including returning family law issues to the control of the states, and family law decisions to the courts to be made in the context of individual rights.
68 posted on 04/27/2004 5:38:18 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
It's a wider problem than just the trashing of our constitutional rights. These problems didn't exist 50 years ago. If it hadn't been for the sexual revolution and the women's movement, the camel wouldn't have been able to get its nose under the tent.

As dreary as this sounds, we need to take personal responsibility for our own actions. I told my son that 5 minutes of "fun" can turn into 18 years of financial slavery, or a nasty STD. If you want to be stupid and play around with drugs, the government can come in and seize everything you own.

Now here's the problem, no matter how anal you are about obeying every law on the books, they make up new ones. Did you know that it's against the law for a minor to carry a lighter? They'll do anything to get you in the system.

Besides forcing changes in the way the federal government has usurped states rights, we must go back to making wiser choices in our lives.
69 posted on 04/27/2004 11:24:39 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
If it hadn't been for the sexual revolution and the women's movement, the camel wouldn't have been able to get its nose under the tent.

The more important history involves years of repeated attempts to get at the Social Security "trust fund" and many decades of people making money out of any kind of government spending. The child supprot enforcement program in effect set up a new "trust fund." Billions and billions of dollars in child support pass through the hands of every Tom, Dick, and Harry on the block. You can bet I wouldn't mind having the interest from deposits on their way through the system. Then there's the actual billions the government spends each year running the system through private companies -- companies that don't have to invest anything and do really do anything -- but take their part of the booty.
70 posted on 04/27/2004 11:28:50 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
The interest! Now I see where you're coming from. I was looking at this from a completely different angle. That's why the Feds are involved. The interest on all that money going to the government. What a scheme!

Lol, I feel pretty silly right now. I have to admit that some of your articles confused me because there was a key piece of information that I was missing.
71 posted on 04/27/2004 1:13:30 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I don't know why you're involved in this discussion. You aren't interested in the facts, and seem rather dedicated to avoiding the issues.
72 posted on 04/28/2004 5:44:32 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
Why do you say that? I've been looking at the whole thing from a completely different prospective. I'm not financially knowledgeable. To sit and try and figure out the government's way of doing business would be my idea of capital punishment. My friend could see it when I showed him the article yesterday afternoon, though. He's smarter than I am when it comes to this stuff.

I'm part of the discussion to learn, and I learned something. However I think my theories also have some merit. We're not free, and haven't been for a very long time. They've found a way to control us through our children. Pass the tinfoil?

Sorry if you took my post the wrong way, but when it comes to numbers, my mind just doesn't go there :-(



73 posted on 04/28/2004 7:03:42 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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