[KC_for_Freedom]

They are the ones that can make changes within their religion, not us.

You are of course right, If they want to change the religion. But I believe they are waiting to see if the radical part of their religion will end up winning big gains from the west. (Like when we give in and agree to all they want.) All I can see that will prevent this is for the radical islam to suffer huge losses at our hands.

As for giving them a chance, what does that mean? We have given them 800 of our peoples lives. (Not counting those they took from civilians). You don't expect us to continue to wait do you? Its a momentum game. Look at Fallujah where we are at cease fire and they are reinforcing, this is not the kind of chance they need.

Thanks, but I will maintain my skeptical view, we need to hit them hard and have them (not us) sue for peace.

[nuconvert]

"You don't expect us to continue to wait do you?"

Absolutely Not.

The thread was about muslims speaking out against terrorism and how their religion can co-exist within a democracy. Specifically in this country. I support and condone what this man seems to be trying to accomplish.
As for muslims in Iraq, that's a another can of worms.

We need to win the war on terrorism in Iraq, Syria, Iran, Indonesia, the Phillipines, wherever. And the sooner the better.