[Mamzelle]

I invite anyone who is thinking or rethinking neo-conservatism to invest two or three hours of googling and reading--It can be quite an eye-opener. You don't know, yet, of the involvement of neo drum-beaters in the Balkans, how they pushed the US to basically turn over a nation to radical Albanian Islamists. Easy to blame Clinton, but would he really have taken part in the Balkan conflict if he hadn't been pushed? I can't picture Clinton going eagerly to any fight.

Neos never saw a war they didn't like--even if it was completely outside of the interests of the US.

Try variations on keywords... "neoconservative kosovo bombing" "Neoconservative Biden McCain Clinton" "serbia churches burning" "Kristol hegemony balkans"

It'll give you quite a chill up your spine. As for me, never call me a neo. I'm looking for a post-neo world.

[TopQuark]

Neos never saw a war they didn't like--even if it was completely outside of the interests of the US.

Mamzelle, a quasi-conservative keeps accusing of treason decent people that may have different views than her own.

This was done with respect to Catholics in this country: they were supposed to be more loyal to the Pope than to their own country. That libel was put to rest during WWII by the bravery of those with Irish and Italian origin.

The same libel is now advanced against the Jews: various Buchanans (strangely, a Catholic himself) accuse Jews in the Bush administration of selling out their own country for Israel. You can find these things on the internet in abundance -- right next to Jews causeing the blague of XIV century by poisoning the wells of Europe, next to Jews needing the blood of a Christian teenager to prepare the matzos, etc.

That's where Mamzelle gets her "education."

If we want to attract minorities into the conservative movement, we need to expell bigots such as these from our midst.

[MegaSilver]

I invite anyone who is thinking or rethinking neo-conservatism to invest two or three hours of googling and reading--It can be quite an eye-opener. You don't know, yet, of the involvement of neo drum-beaters in the Balkans, how they pushed the US to basically turn over a nation to radical Albanian Islamists. Easy to blame Clinton, but would he really have taken part in the Balkan conflict if he hadn't been pushed? I can't picture Clinton going eagerly to any fight.

Clinton wasn't exactly a Liberal, though, either. He was a crude political opportunist, and while he may have been prompted by Neoconservatives, I'm not sure it's such a coincidence that he launched the invasion the week of Monica's grand jury testimony.

Besides, if Neoconservative pressure was the ONLY thing pushing him, WHY on Earth did he go in without Congress' permission?

Neos never saw a war they didn't like--even if it was completely outside of the interests of the US.

A true Neocon--in the tradition of David Frum--is also incapable of rational thought and respect for opposing points of view. I suspect that deep down, irrational people know their analyses are not reasoned and thus feel threatened by those who might easily shoot them down.

I once called David Frum the Pat Buchanan of the Neoconservative side. I now regret saying that; it was an insult to Pat.