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Quebec Man Dies After He Forgets Health Card and Is Forced to Return Home
Canoe ^
| April 23, 2004
| The Canadian Press
Posted on 04/23/2004 8:48:34 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: civil discourse
I'm taking whining classes now.Yes, unfortunately that's what I think we're going to have to do.
My family has run into problems not only as patients, but also as visitors of patients because of this. When my stepdad was on his deathbed in the hospital, my mom sat quietly beside his bed the entire time, doing all her crying in private but keeping her composure in public. Since she wasn't wailing and shrieking and carrying on dramatically enough to satisfy the hospital staff, they went to great lengths to tell her how truly terrible and hopeless his condition was.
They thought she either didn't understand, didn't care, or was in a state of total denial. They were the ones who didn't understand. And, they had no business judging her and tormenting her that way. Since when did it become their job to play the amateur psychologist with their patients' visitors anyway?
IMHO, if we want to get proper treatment at a hospital as either a patient or a visitor, we're just going to have to cast all those "silly" notions of "stiff upper lip" restraint and personal dignity aside. My entire life, I was taught to repress my negative emotions and keep my problems to myself to avoid burdening others. But, times have changed it seems, and apparently the gesture is no longer understood, let alone appreciated.
To: schmelvin
My family is very stoic; we don't whine and cry like babies, and we seek to hide our weaknesses. In emergency situations, we tend to be calm and unemotional. I hate whining. I was also taught not to run up bills you can't pay for.
I went to a county health clinic last year. The first visit, I had to wait forever as expected. After the EKG(boy those things are expensive, and I've had 2, plus a Holter monitor), 3 doctors kept asking me if I was in pain. To me, pain is relative. I blew out 3 disks in my neck, plus I screwed up my lower back. Feeling like you have cinder blocks tied to your chest is just severely annoying. So is feeling like you killed your left arm, and the vomiting. I had 3 doctors come in, and tell me when, not if, to call 911. On this visit, my pulse was 123.
On follow up visits, I was pushed ahead of the line. Then that bitch of a clerk decided that I wasn't eligible for MediCal, when I asked her who I made the co-pay to. I have a 560.00 deductible. I got the money together, and my worker told me to pay them. I had the paperwork with my name on it and everything. By the time I went in, I was freaking out. The nurse thought the blood pressure machine was broken. I have extremely low blood pressure normally, but my pulse rate is out of control. Oh, and Prozac sucks.
In the past month I've been under a lot of pressure from several different sources. I've almost called 911 twice, but worked my way through it. I quit going to the doctors and quit taking my meds, but I'm rethinking this, considering the lady in the billing office to me not to worry about the bills.
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posted on
04/24/2004 1:41:42 PM PDT
by
TheSpottedOwl
(Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
To: Libertina
"I don't see what we did wrong. I'm not defending the clinic, we just followed the rules."
If you didn't do anything wrong, then why are you NOT defending the clinic?
Typical liberal/socialist doublespeak.
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posted on
04/24/2004 1:47:44 PM PDT
by
Levante
To: TheSpottedOwl
Thanks for the additional comments. Good luck to you.
I know what you mean about being dishonest, but that's the way the game is played these days isn't it. Sad but true...
To: quidnunc
The Quebec health bureaucracy murdered a man and defends their negligence on grounds of he forgot to follow paperwork rules. This is the way bureaucrats everywhere think of the "little people" - we're there to serve them and we better do as we're told or we're good as dead. I've never seen a more compelling illustration of why Canada Health Care would be bad for America.
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posted on
04/24/2004 2:12:16 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Libertina
Yep. Gee, where have we heard THAT one before? Oh back in the 40s when the Nazis were on trial in Nuremberg for war crimes, they came up with the "I was just following orders" defense. Dong! After 60 years you hear bureaucrats trot out the same excuse for murder. Like I'm surprised.
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posted on
04/24/2004 2:14:47 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Army Air Corps
"E has ceased to be".
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posted on
04/24/2004 2:22:38 PM PDT
by
Ditter
To: Ditter
"E has joined the chorus invisible."
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posted on
04/24/2004 2:23:49 PM PDT
by
Army Air Corps
(To increase the power of the State over the individual is a crime against Humanity.)
To: Army Air Corps
LOL I can't remember anymore. Can you?
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posted on
04/24/2004 5:13:15 PM PDT
by
Ditter
To: Ditter
"'es bereft of life. 'es passed on. 'e is no more. That is waht I call a dead Parrot."
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posted on
04/24/2004 8:06:14 PM PDT
by
Army Air Corps
(To increase the power of the State over the individual is a crime against Humanity.)
To: quidnunc
Montreal A 21-year-old man died of appendicitis after he was refused treatment at an emergency clinic because he didn't have his provincial health card with him. Similar situation happened in China with a worker but in that instance, no one had enough cash. By the time everyone returned with money, the guy had died. That was quite a few years ago and the hospital policy has changed.
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posted on
04/24/2004 8:29:13 PM PDT
by
BJungNan
To: Lancey Howard
bump
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posted on
04/24/2004 8:32:32 PM PDT
by
VOA
To: neutrino
My, my. It seems that nationalized health insurance isn't a panacea after all. Who woulda thunk it? You woulda think differently if you were trying to get medical care when you are without insurance and uninsurable.
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posted on
04/24/2004 8:39:03 PM PDT
by
BJungNan
To: TheSpottedOwl
!!!
Sounds like you have some really bad health problems there. Good luck!
Reminds me of the doctor in Arizona who became a private doctor for 'rich' people who paid a certain amount of money per year. He was on call for them and dealt with no other patients.
He couldn't take the hassle of bureaucracy.
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posted on
04/25/2004 12:10:57 AM PDT
by
GeronL
(John F Kerry; Repeat to thyself often: The Mississippi is not the Mekong Delta)
To: Levante; goldstategop
Sadly, It's what people say when something bad happens, that they weren't brave enough to speak up about and stop.
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posted on
04/26/2004 7:00:41 PM PDT
by
Libertina
("I don't see what we did wrong. I'm not defending the mistake, we just followed the rules.")
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