[Monty22]

As long as it's just a part, it's ok. Some stuff can be done better over there without much damage here.

Their culture over there will still stop them from being too much of a threat for awhile.

But still, it's hard to compete with educated slave labor.

[oceanview]

that's a twist - most chip work I know of is going to China, not India. Oh well, its good for US companies to have a choice as to where they will offshore all their tech jobs to!

I was talking to a co-worker just yesterday about a college choice for his 17 year old - I suggested real estate or business or law, engineering is dead in the US.

[randog]

Californian chip maker AMD is to set up a design centre in India...

How long before Athlon clones start showing up in Asia? Any bets? Two, three years?

Outsourcing your core competency is a really, really bad idea.

[templar]

Just more obsolete buggywhip industry. We're better off without it, we cqan concentrate more resources on the new emerging fields of the future.

[Boundless]

> (another one bites the dust)

Not at all. The market for AMD's products (CPUs and flash
RAM is growing), and AMD is gaining market share on Intel.
Intel recently acknowledged that Intel no longer drives
the x86 CPU market, when Intel cloned AMD's 64-bit
extensions to the IA-32 instruction set architecture.

> ... set up a design centre in India, the first of its
> kind outside the United States. The centre to initially
> employ 50 engineers will be located in the technology
> hub of Bangalore.

My guess is that this is the really boring part of IC
design, routing, placement, testing, etc. I doubt if
we'll see much in the way of novel silicon from there
for some time.

> AMD has said its plan is part of an expansion and
> would not involve laying off American engineers.

Consistent with my hypothesis.

> A row is raging in the US over whether the outsourcing
> of work to the developing world where costs are lower
> is costing US citizens their jobs.

The regulatory cost of having even one employee is too
bloody high here. Until and unless this gets fixed,
employers are going to off-shore every seat they can.

And if things get tight, those off-shore hacks may be
the first hacked, because it's doubtless easier to fire
people in India than here.

[The Great RJ]

Part of the problem is with US education. We simply aren't graduating enough engineers. We have dumbed down math to ridiculous levels-- I know I teach college algebra and incoming students are virtually ignorant of simple math skills--thanks to the new math. Colleges and Universities aren't doing their part either. They are putting money into developing Peace Studies, and other pseudo-studies departments at the expense of hard science and engineering. I'm certain the number of lawyers graduating from US Universities far exceeds the number of engineers.

Asian students are well trained in the basics and hard science and particularly engineering are fortes of many Asian Universities.

[hedgetrimmer]

Chinese Defence Minister General Cao Gangchuan poses for photographers in front of the historic Taj Mahal in the northern Indian city of Agra March 30, 2004. India and China announced on Monday a series of proposals to strengthen ties between their armed forces to help bolster a new friendship between the world's most populous countries.. Chinese Defence Minister General Cao Gangchuan poses for photographers in front of the historic Taj Mahal in the northern Indian city of Agra March 30, 2004. India and China announced on Monday a series of proposals to strengthen ties between their armed forces to help bolster a new friendship between the world's most populous countries,

****

China to India:
He who possesses advanced chips can have the initiative in the battlefield

Chip is of important strategic significance to a country's economic development

The importance of chips is manifested in national security

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Not to worry. This administration is working hard to create more part-time, minimum wage jobs for our engineers to step into. The economy is booming, donchaknow.

[Cronos]

What's up with the headline? it says
Chip maker shifts design to India
And then the article says
Californian chip maker AMD is to set up a design centre in India, the first of its kind outside the United States

No news of "shifting"