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Drug Makers Hope to Kill the Kick in Pain Relief
NY Times ^ | April 20, 2004 | SANDRA BLAKESLEE

Posted on 04/23/2004 4:22:42 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 04/23/2004 4:22:43 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Another produces a nasty burning sensation.

Hmmm.. I hope they're not expecting to recoup their R&D investment on that one..

2 posted on 04/23/2004 4:27:38 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: neverdem
Good, the medication needs to STOP PAIN, not cause anyone to feel better. That leads to addiction and problems.

Just make stuff that works. That's the ultimate goal of painkilling research, to replace the crap we have now.
3 posted on 04/23/2004 4:32:18 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: neverdem
Still, drug addicts will continue to find ways to foil the efforts to foil them.

That could've been the entire article right there and saved a whole lot of ink.. =)

4 posted on 04/23/2004 4:32:39 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: AntiGuv
A lot of people get addicted by medication now. I think it's wonderful that they can make non-addictive medication that'll kill pain but not produce any other effects. The best thing imaginable.
5 posted on 04/23/2004 4:33:31 PM PDT by Monty22
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I think capsaicin is the substance that they want to use to cause the nasty burning sensation. It might be quite agreeable to people that love red pepper.
6 posted on 04/23/2004 4:38:52 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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I haven't any problem with the idea, but it's a futile endeavor. The main thing they accomplish is to create ever greater hassle for those who don't have a problem with substance abuse.
7 posted on 04/23/2004 4:38:56 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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bull and $hit. They obviously can make nonaddictive painkillers, they're already doing it well.. Celebrex and Ultram are great.

Get over your druggie ideals, that's soooo old.
8 posted on 04/23/2004 4:40:37 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: Monty22
...the medication needs to STOP PAIN, not cause anyone to feel better.

A true Zen saying.

FMCDH

9 posted on 04/23/2004 4:43:44 PM PDT by nothingnew (The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
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Of course they're doing well. The article says only 5-10% have a problem with addiction. The other 90% have no problem with getting prescribed Celebrex and Ultram when appropriate.
10 posted on 04/23/2004 4:46:50 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: neverdem
It might be quite agreeable to people that love red pepper.

Nah. The number of reported 'capsaicin allergies' will merely spike, just like the number of reported 'aspirin/NSAID allergies' did some while back...

11 posted on 04/23/2004 4:51:45 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: neverdem
"One combination blocks euphoria."

Yeah, heaven forbid that someone in pain should experience anything that feels good or makes the pain more tolerable when it can't be completely eliminated.

12 posted on 04/23/2004 4:55:59 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: sweetliberty
Exactly, we need stuff that only kills pain, not has any potential for abuse.
13 posted on 04/23/2004 4:58:35 PM PDT by Monty22
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You do realize, of course, that your 'best-case scenario' is to significantly escalate the illicit opiate trade? Granted, there would probably be some subset of people who avoid inadvertent addiction who would not otherwise, which is a good thing.
14 posted on 04/23/2004 5:02:23 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: AntiGuv
If losers have to resort to heroin, so be it..

Throw them in jail.
15 posted on 04/23/2004 5:07:22 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: neverdem
We need to ask the drug experts what they think.
What do the Libertarians here think about this?
16 posted on 04/23/2004 5:10:48 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Monty22
There are a lot of things short of heroin. If I'd meant heroin, I would've said heroin and not opiates. The illicit pill market would expand primarily.
17 posted on 04/23/2004 5:13:43 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: AntiGuv
I'd like to see the opiates phased out as something much better comes along.

It just makes sense, progress.
18 posted on 04/23/2004 5:21:20 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: Monty22
If something much better comes along then I'm sure the opiates would get phased out pretty swiftly. Lacing opiates with capsaicin or some kind of inhibitor is probably not it.
19 posted on 04/23/2004 5:26:36 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: AntiGuv
To reduce overuse, perhaps it is. When used at prescribed doses, addiction issues are nearly non-existant.

So if you make it harder to take more, it'll probably help.
20 posted on 04/23/2004 5:29:52 PM PDT by Monty22
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