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"Is the Internet Polarizing U.S. Political Dialogue?" (FreeRepublic mentioned)
Annenberg Journalism School, USC ^ | April 23, 04 | Mark Glaser

Posted on 04/23/2004 7:53:47 AM PDT by churchillbuff

Mark Glaser Posted: 2004-04-22 ...While people on the left and right can turn beet-red with anger on TV shows such as ABC's "This Week," CNN's "Crossfire" or Fox's "Hannity & Colmes," the Internet provides innumerable forums and political sites so anyone can fire off a torrent of rhetorical brickbats. The Web is the birthplace of "flamers" and "trolls," people who launch no-holds-barred attacks on others with opposing views.

...[ship]...But despite the rise of so much partisan noise, it's hard to say without a doubt that we're living in the most divisive time, or that the Net is to blame. Research in the area is relatively sketchy, and the Net still provides a vast galaxy of diverse opinions and objective journalism.

In January, Pew Internet found that 67 percent of Americans prefer getting news from sources that don't have a political point of view, while 25 percent prefer news sources that share their point of view. Scott Keeter, associate director for the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, told me that people who use the Net are even less likely to say they want news from sources with their viewpoint. ...[snip]Other researchers believe that ideological journalism is just another way to serve a niche audience. Tom Rosenstiel, director of the Project for Excellence in Journalism, says that the recent State of the News Media 2004 report showed a demand for targeted media in general, and not just ideological media.

"We are in an on-demand world," Rosenstiel said via e-mail. "People want what they want when they want it. They don't want a one-size-fits-all news. For those who want to make their niche a conservative audience, that has given them a comfortable spot. ..."The danger of echo chambers

While news futurists have dreamed of the day people could create their "Daily Me" -- a newspaper or Web site with only the news they want (and agree with) -- one prominent political thinker believes this could lead to a closed-minded society and the eventual ruin of democracy. ...[snip]Sunstein believes that like-minded people discussing an issue amongst themselves tend to move to more extreme viewpoints. ...[snip]In "Republic.com," Sunstein even suggested that the government might have to step in and force Web sites to link to opposing opinions.

The book was originally published in 2001, but Sunstein recently told me he's softened his view on government regulation. "I didn't say that such regulation is necessary; only that it's worth considering," he said via e-mail. "I'm not sure I still think so ... The major point I'd emphasize is the risk that when like-minded people speak mostly to one another, there's more division and polarization and less mutual understanding. This is a serious problem for American democracy. Lots of options are good, but it's not so good if people sort themselves into echo chambers."

...[snip]The good side of partisan media

Of course, not everyone thinks ideological journalism is such a bad thing -- in moderation. Michael Cornfield, research director at the Institute for Politics, Democracy & the Internet at George Washington University, says that respectful debate has its place.

"I wouldn't be so quick to equate partisan/ideological with coarse and bad if I were you," he told me via e-mail. "There's nothing wrong with partisan dialogue, provided that it is grounded in facts, oriented to policymaking, and suffused with respect. True, some of the online dialogue doesn't meet those standards. But we can criticize, and click elsewhere." ...[snip]The Guerrilla News Network fancies itself an antiestablishment, anti-corporate Web site with music-fueled political videos. Most of its work has been critical of George W. Bush, but its top editors say GNN wants to take on powerful Democrats and Republicans. Executive editor Anthony Lappé says the site's forums are much more open to opposing viewpoints than partisan forums such as Free Republic or Democratic Underground. Creative director Stephen Marshall says GNN hopes to give more space to conservative voices in the future Related Links ABC News: "This Week" Air America Radio AlterNet Bill Powers: On the Media CJR's Campaign Desk CNN CNN: "Crossfire" Cass Sunstein's "Echo Chambers" essay (Acrobat file) Cass Sunstein's "Republic.com" Centrist Coalition Daily Kos Democratic Underground Fox News Channel Fox News Channel: "Hannity & Colmes" Free Republic Guerrilla News Network Institute for Politics, Democracy & the Internet Knight Ridder newspapers MSNBC National Journal National Public Radio National Review Online NewsMax Nielsen//NetRatings Pew Internet Project report Pew Research Center for the People & the Press Political Wire Project for Excellence in Journalism Rush Limbaugh Salon Slate State of the News Media 2004 TomPaine.com USA Today University of Chicago Department of Political Science University of Chicago Law School

Rick Heller, Centrist Coalition blogger

Jonah Goldberg, National Review Online editor at large

Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, founder of Daily Kos

Cass Sunstein, University of Chicago law and political science professor

Bill Powers, National Journal media columnist

Scott Keeter, associate director for the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

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To: Eastbound
The efforts that are used and lengths gone to to try and negate or minimize the depth and the size of the conservative/sonstitutional/patriotic opposition to the social/liberal/marxist/global agenda are truly absurd some times.
21 posted on 04/23/2004 8:45:33 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: churchillbuff
While news futurists have dreamed of the day people could create their "Daily Me" -- a newspaper or Web site with only the news they want (and agree with) -- one prominent political thinker believes this could lead to a closed-minded society and the eventual ruin of democracy. ...

Translation: If we don't read the New York Times every day, we might stray from the leftist plantation, ruining their aspirations for world domination!

22 posted on 04/23/2004 8:47:09 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: churchillbuff
This is a serious problem for American democracy. Lots of options are good, but it's not so good if people sort themselves into echo chambers."

Yeah, places like churches and synagogues are dangerous. They're magnets for like-minded simpletons and only serve to indoctrinate fools with dangerous concepts like absolute morals and good vs. evil. The gub'mint ought to step and so something about this.

23 posted on 04/23/2004 8:54:24 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: SunStar
Translation: If we don't read the NYT...their aspirations for world domination!

Bingo...We've got an winner..short and sweet! :)

24 posted on 04/23/2004 8:56:31 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: churchillbuff
I think what's happening is the people who actually care on both sides are able to more easily express themselves to others who think the same they do (especially the radicals).

I think most Americans don't take politics as seriously or care as much as those of us who post in various internet forums. The various political discussion groups on usenet have been going for well over a decade and it hasn't changed American politics all that much.

I just think it comes down to people are able to find others on the internet with the same opinion, much easier.

The press on the other hand, holds up those of us active on the internet, through sites like FR, even DU, as being representative of regular Americans, when we are clearly not.

25 posted on 04/23/2004 8:58:48 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: churchillbuff
Title should be:

Have the conservatives finally found out how to use the Internet to bypass us to get to the truth?

26 posted on 04/23/2004 9:01:26 AM PDT by Preachin' (Why become a democrat if I have to lie to do it?)
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To: churchillbuff
While news futurists have dreamed of the day people could create their "Daily Me" -- a newspaper or Web site with only the news they want (and agree with) -- one prominent political thinker believes this could lead to a closed-minded society and the eventual ruin of democracy. ...[snip]Sunstein believes that like-minded people discussing an issue amongst themselves tend to move to more extreme viewpoints. ...[snip]In "Republic.com," Sunstein even suggested that the government might have to step in and force Web sites to link to opposing opinions.

Does anyone else smell the "Fairness Doctrine" again? I will happily link to a relevant article from DU, inasmuch as they are so hate filled and illogical over there that they would make my arguments for me.

I wonder if he would force the NYTimes to reference editorials at the WSJournal, or have the WashPost reference the WashTimes?

That will happen when monkeys fly out of my butt!

27 posted on 04/23/2004 9:06:50 AM PDT by SpinyNorman (i)
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To: churchillbuff
The major point I'd emphasize is the risk that when like-minded people speak mostly to one another, there's more division and polarization and less mutual understanding. This is a serious problem for American democracy. Lots of options are good, but it's not so good if people sort themselves into echo chambers.

One of the major reasons I FReep is to hear things I never could have thought of myself.

28 posted on 04/23/2004 9:12:32 AM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: af_vet_rr
..well over a decade and it hasn't changed American politics all that much.

...esp. if you discount the actions of Freepers in Fla. courthouses during "the count" after the Nat. Election in Nov. of 2000.

....when Al "the tree" Gore (and his Ilk), seemed to be trying to steal the election....Its' not how many votes you win, Its' who counts the votes....said "Papa" Joseph Stalin, right Shrillary? :p

29 posted on 04/23/2004 9:12:58 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: Jeff Head
True. Without the echos, the walls of Jericho would never have came tumbling down. One voice in the desert may not be heard beyond a hundred yards. But ten voices would reverberate for twenty miles -- and a 'choir' for a hundred. Let the peal of a thousand liberty bells entrain the souls of the wicked throughout the land.
30 posted on 04/23/2004 9:14:08 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound
Amen!
31 posted on 04/23/2004 9:19:01 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: churchillbuff
In January, Pew Internet found that 67 percent of Americans prefer getting news from sources that don't have a political point of view

FR is a great source for news. It is the dialog surrounding the threads that has folks like this author up in arms.

32 posted on 04/23/2004 9:26:15 AM PDT by GSWarrior (Flunked Grief Counseling 101)
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To: af_vet_rr
the people who actually care on both sides are able to more easily express themselves to others who think the same

Me, I like a good argument.

33 posted on 04/23/2004 9:29:47 AM PDT by The kings dead ("No you don't." "Yes I do.")
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To: churchillbuff
It's really odd. I can't remember any of the leftists complaining about a lack of diversity of opinion prior to the emergence of Free Republic. I guess I just wasn't listening hard enough. They must have been absolutely clamoring for a different point of view.
34 posted on 04/23/2004 10:21:34 AM PDT by Chu Gary (USN Intel guy 1967 - 1970)
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To: Jeff Head
The diversion from truth, now written of by a Journalism insturctor(?) at USC, is the typical 'lie'beral way to misdirect attention ... as you said, the Net is allowing the trurht to finally surface without the deceitful filters the lieberal press uses. THAT is now characterized as 'polarizing'!
35 posted on 04/23/2004 10:29:28 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: All
A yearning for fairness (doctrine).

The left yearns for the good old days when they could waltz into local radio stations and log complaints that the stations were not fa-a-a-a-a-air and threatening the station owners' FCC licenses.

In "Republic.com," Sunstein even suggested that the government might have to step in and force Web sites to link to opposing opinions.

No surprise that papers like the nyt gave the book rave reviews. I queried amazon.com once and found that the book was a best seller at locales near major universities.

On a local talk station Sunstein was asked, "What about liberal sites? Should they be forced to be fair?"

"What?" he replied, puzzled. Then added, "oh.. uh, yes I suppose so." Like it had never occurred to him that his feeeeeeeeeeelings could be considered unfa-a-a-a-a-air.

36 posted on 04/23/2004 10:44:28 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: Onelifetogive; SpinyNorman
Oh yeah.....and how about that little "Freedom of Assembly" thing in the Constitution???

Ah, well, that's not as important as making sure that you're exposed to "correct" thinking, especially if you're the type to hang around wrong-thinking message boards. And I'm sure that Sunstein had only wrong-thinking boards like FR in mind when he proposed that, or he wouldn't have proposed it at all. Or do you think that Sunstein would agree that the ADL should be forced to link to the pages of Holocaust deniers, and that the NAACP should be forced to link to Klan websites? ;)

37 posted on 04/23/2004 11:00:15 AM PDT by general_re (The doors to Heaven and Hell are adjacent and identical... - Nikos Kazantzakis)
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To: churchillbuff
I don't live in a closed conservative world. FR makes me well aware of the dipdingle liberal views out there.
38 posted on 04/23/2004 11:04:07 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Jeff Head
Of course the author pretends there is a news source free of bias. We know that the RATmedia is bias personified. Pravda and Izvestia had more truth that does our currect collection of Liars. Even FoxNews is half-@ssed.
39 posted on 04/23/2004 11:05:25 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic RATmedia agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: churchillbuff
Ah! from the Annenberg Journalism School, USC...
major proponent of the Joseph Stalin school of objective journalism and The Chairman Mao re-education camp of Political Dissent.
40 posted on 04/23/2004 11:15:36 AM PDT by hosepipe
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