1 posted on
04/22/2004 6:16:58 AM PDT by
Pokey78
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2 posted on
04/22/2004 6:19:35 AM PDT by
Pokey78
(quidnunc: A one person crusade to destroy Mark Steyn.)
To: Pokey78
Super, many thanks.
3 posted on
04/22/2004 6:20:31 AM PDT by
Hans
To: Watery Tart
Ping.
5 posted on
04/22/2004 6:23:12 AM PDT by
Pokey78
(quidnunc: A one person crusade to destroy Mark Steyn.)
To: Pokey78
Thank you for posting the entire article!!! Steyn makes sense all the time!
To: Pokey78
Steyn pains a grim picture.I am paying attention..It would seem that most people in Europe are not concerned.Canada's political correctness is dangerous.
9 posted on
04/22/2004 6:31:55 AM PDT by
MEG33
(John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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Exceptionally fine Steyn.
10 posted on
04/22/2004 6:35:36 AM PDT by
aculeus
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"Only Bush can save Europe ..."... but why bother ...
11 posted on
04/22/2004 6:35:37 AM PDT by
BlueLancer
(Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
To: Pokey78
This writer is so outstanding, so consistently excellent, so prolificly tremendous. Even when he writes what is really a depressing article I love it.
13 posted on
04/22/2004 6:41:27 AM PDT by
Tennessean4Bush
(An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
To: Pokey78
"History is not just cruel. It is witty."
~Charles Krauthammer~
15 posted on
04/22/2004 6:47:11 AM PDT by
Savage Beast
("Bush's a terrorist!"~Arafat/"Bush's a moron!"~Carter/W's a liar!"~Clinton/"Bush is deranged!"~Kerry)
To: Pokey78
In 30 years time, either the Arab lady will still be there, or the condom store, but not both. Which would you bet on? A thought-provoking and graphic metaphor, but I think an unfortunate one. Hopefully, we in the west are fighting for a lot more than condom stores. If not, we are destined to fail.
18 posted on
04/22/2004 6:53:11 AM PDT by
massadvj
To: Pokey78
Al-Qaedas PR department is learning how to talk to continentals in a language they can understand. Ain't that the truth!
To: Pokey78
Steyn is brilliant and a fabulous writer. This is one of his very best articles.
To: Pokey78
If anything destroys Western civilization, it will be the combination of Islamofascism and the smug, complacent "it can't happen here, I fear Ashcroft more than Bin Laden" idiocy of liberalism.
30 posted on
04/22/2004 7:27:14 AM PDT by
Steve_Seattle
("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
To: Pokey78
That is a downright freightening forcast. I don't hold out much hope for europe, but what does that foretell for us?
31 posted on
04/22/2004 7:29:41 AM PDT by
McGavin999
(Evil thrives when good men do nothing.)
To: Pokey78
Mark definitely gets it.
He's one of the few writers that can get away with this kind of truthspeak, even on FR. Others are regularly skewered by the do-gooders for saying essentially the same thing.
34 posted on
04/22/2004 7:55:18 AM PDT by
skeeter
To: Pokey78
Even Mr Bush is somewhat constrained. National Reviews "John Derbyshire wrote last week about a 1945 solution for Iraq. This is shorthand for the bombing of Dresden, the nuking of Hiroshima, etc. the sort of stern measures that let an enemy know hes well and truly whipped. But, as Mr Derbyshire points out, war abroad is determined by culture at home, and if we were fighting the second world war today, we wouldnt nuke Hiroshima or even intern Japanese-Americans: the culture will not permit it. Nor will it permit old-school imperialism. Culturally sensitive nation-building is as aggressive as you can get these days."
This is exactly right. The problem with islamolunatics is that we fight them sporadically and humanely. We beat back just enough to get them off our throats, but not enough to crush them. The Israelis are perfect examples of this. They have been fighting the same war for 40 years. Enough is enough. I prefer the "total war" philosphy of Sherman, Pershing and Patton. Crush the enemy completely, make him scream for peace, destroy his capacity for war and put the fear of G-d into him. This enrage the liberal weanies, but their rage won't last, peace will. We will be better off for it and in the long run, so will the Islamo-scum.
36 posted on
04/22/2004 8:00:55 AM PDT by
BadAndy
(Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
To: Pokey78
Thanks for the ping.
37 posted on
04/22/2004 8:07:16 AM PDT by
GOPJ
(NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
To: Pokey78
This is one of Steyn's best, IMO. Brilliant, and I am bookmarking. Thanks for the ping.
39 posted on
04/22/2004 8:09:41 AM PDT by
lawgirl
(God to womankind: "Here's Cary Grant. Now don't tell me I never gave you anything.")
To: Pokey78
Steyn really 'gets it'........'managerial' approach on terrorism will not work!
By 2030 those of us left (especially in Europe) ....could be living like the Israelis do today.......go for a pizza or a bus ride & risk getting blown up by Islamic terrorists!
40 posted on
04/22/2004 8:15:59 AM PDT by
JulieRNR21
(One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
To: Pokey78
I'm beginning to lean towards the "1945" approach myself. I think this method is the only method Islamists will understand; total and ultimate destruction.
My question is, what has happened to mainstream America that allowed this in 45' but won't in 04'? Have people really become this naive or is it just a baseless opinion that's presented to us by the media that believes it?
IMHO, if Bush wins this election cycle, he should pull out, and make the decision that would now be vilified, but throughout history would be seen as the only solution to a World dominated by terrorists. That solution should be nuclear.
41 posted on
04/22/2004 8:37:06 AM PDT by
TwoBear
(Go Big Orange!)
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