my eighty-year old daddy went up to the fifth grade... his fifth-grade education (led by nun--even though it wasn't a private school--in a school house that eventually became a gas station--that's how small it was) was far richer than today's twelfth-grade education... he is a man who can read, write and do arithmatic--multiplication, division, fractions, etc... he has successfully run his own business employing others for the last forty years (and still working at eighty)... back then, school wasn't filled with a bunch of social brain-washing...