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I do hope for your sake the ring is not made of gold (1 Peter 3:3 and 1 Timothy 2:9).

I'm not ignoring you anti, went home sick friday.

I got to study both scriptures you listed, these are guidelines given for Christian living, not laws or commandments. Women braiding their hair and wearing a lot of jewelry, etc. is used to define women such as Tammy Faye Bakker, who profess christianity, yet have no modesty.

I checked with the King James Bible, The New English Bible and the living bible, when the same three scriptures are compared by translation, the meaning becomes more clear.

I'll post them for you maybe later today, forgot them at home.

I'm not ignoring you anti, went home sick friday.

I hope you're feeling better.

I got to study both scriptures you listed, these are guidelines given for Christian living, not laws or commandments.

So, except for the 10 Commandments, we get to choose what to follow and what not ("it's just a guideline")? Who decides what's a guideline and what isn't? That's where you get into sectarian wars, where some believe the guideline is law and others don't -- then the one believing it's law claims the other is not a Christian, and the one claiming guideline calls the other fundamentalist. The same thing happens in the Muslim world.

Actually, you know how Jews range from Orthodox to non-observant, but all still call themselves Jewish? The same thing exists in the Muslim world, with people believing in Allah and Mohammed, but they don't follow all of those 1300 year-old rules.