Michigan City Council OKs Muslim Prayer Over Loudspeaker

Fox News website ^ | April 21 | Associated press

[righteousindignation]

Hamtramck,Mich.--Over some residents' objections, the City Council voted unanimously Tuesday night to allow a mosque to send out a call to prayer to Muslims on a loudspeaker....five times a day.

[chuckwalla]

Poverty has nothing to do with it.
72 virgins and eternal martyrdom does.
Religious brainwashing does.

[Politicalmom]

I guess you prefer stoning rape victims, honor killings, and suicide bombings.

[Guillermo]

Of course moron.

Since I oppose abortion and the homosexual agenda, I want to kill adulterers and promote suicide bombing.

Nice logic. Can I assume you rarely or never use your feeble mind?

[antonia]

Oxymoron: Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and loyal citizen?

1. Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia, turned monothistic.
2. Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran.
3. Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
4. Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Islam demands that he make no friends of Christians and Jews (Q. 5:51)
5. Politically, no. Because he must submit to the mullah, who teaches annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.
6. Domestically, no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Q. 4:34).
7. Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islamintolerance (Q. 2:256).
8. Intellectually, no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is established on Biblical principles, and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
9. Philosophically, no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is dictatorial or autocratic except Turkey.
10. Spiritually, no. Because when we declare one nation under God, the Christians God is a triune God, while the Muslims is one entity called Allah, who is never a heavenly Father, nor is he ever called Love in the 99 excellent names.

[TexKat]

You just don't get it, do ya!

No I believe it is you that just did not get my post before going on a rampage. What I posted was referring to is in todays world some American community members are complaining about church bells ringing and trying to put a stop to it while muslims are seeking and getting approval for using a loudspeaker for their call to prayer.

Yeah, keep dwelling in the politics of the situation.

Sorry but I would be the last to dwell in the politics that are going on at the present, especially when we have Americans being killed almost on a daily basis. It is a shame and I would say inhuman the bickering and lying going on while people are being killed all over the world. I am an American first before anything else.

Then someday, when bomb goes off in your kids own school, and you have to go collect his dead little pieces from the police, you enjoy it!

Enjoy it, you are a sick individual. I sure hope and pray that a bomb does not go off in any ones kids school, and by the way my kid just recently got back from Iraq/Kuwait in one piece, thank God. He will probably have to go back and if and when he does I pray that he returns home again in one piece.

Ignorance is ruining this nation!

Yes it sure is, why don't you try directing your hysteria in that direction.

Go read the Quran. READ IT!

You go read the Quran. You read it again and again if you so choose. But considering your outburst perhaps you need to stand back, stand back from the Quran.

I choose not to read it, I already know how evil, hateful, and dangerous the enemy is. They have shown it in actions numerous times.

Have a good evening.

[wingster]

Enjoy it, you are a sick individual. I sure hope and pray that a bomb does not go off in any ones kids school

Sick? For what, not wanting that to happen?

No, I'm peace loving and normal. We agree then, if we don't want this to happen, then let's keep islam out of this country. It has ruined all regions of the world where diversity in religion exists and made them very, very, very dangerous places.

Until the "good" muslims start wearing a "G" on their foreheads, and the "Bad" ones a "B", just like the murderer who can come on as a really nice guy, I don't trust a one of them unless I've known them personally for a while.

These people work out of back rooms, not out in the open. Even in their homeland! Masks and all! Why do you think that is?

You, we, can't tell them apart and until they start isolating the "bad/militant" ones, I see no reason for a truly peace loving people to tolerate a religion based and predicated entirely on exclusion and hate to be allowed to thrive in this once great nation!

[Don Joe]

During WW2, would we have allowed Nazi recruitment centers to blare annoucnments to join from the rooftops?

Yes, but only if we'd have been able to delay WW2 until the present timeframe.

[Don Joe]

Meanwhile, play that christian music, it is a form of protest anyone within earshot will understand. and remember, they cant arrest all of you!. If they arrest Christians for "civil disobedience, the news across the country will go ballistic!

More likely, it'll go down like this, if people try that: There will be complaints of Christians "interfering" with "Muslim worship". The city will then order the Christians to cease and desist from harassing the poor Muslims by trying to block the free expression of their religion.

Then, the city and/or the Muslims will go to court, and get a judgement -- a restraining order -- prohibiting the Christians from "interfering". If it continues, they will go back to the court, get the Christians to be "found in contempt" -- and be subject to fines, damages, and so forth.

If the Christians do not pay up, they'll go back to the courts again, and they'll get various writs, orders of execution, and so forth, so that they can file liens against the homes of the offending Christians, garnishee their bank accounts and paychecks, take their cars, and even march into their homes, accompanied by police officers, to walk out with anything of value, to sell off to "help satisfy the judgement".

They won't have to arrest a single person. But, they will be able to destroy countless lives and families.

Nice game, ain't it? Really cute.

[Smartass]

Vote the bastards out of office!!!

[Don Joe]

OK Michigan Christians are ya gonna fight or is GOD going to spit you out of his mouth for being lukewarm?

How thoughtful and considerate of you to play "Let's you and him fight."

The condemnation to hell was a nice touch, too. I don't think I've seen that one before.

How about you move to Michigan, so that you can tilt at windmills yourself, and show us all how it's done, rather than trying to provoke other people into doing something that might cost them their life savings, future wages, and homes?

Or are you all mouth?

[Don Joe]

Time to rent a copy of "Tune In Tomorrow".

[Don Joe]

Coming soon to a mosque near you. How long before the next city makes the same demands?

Not long at all, I'd think, now that there's precedent.

This is a camel's nose under the tent maneuver.

[Don Joe]

The camel is in the tent, including his tail , has parked himself in the middle of the tent and is braying (or whatever noise camels make) at top decibel.

They spit.

[Don Joe]

Meanwhile, the muslims keep pushing their luck.

It's not "luck" if they keep winning. It's "victory."

And western culture is handing it to them on a silver platter.

[Merdoug]

What is the difference between these "chants" and church bells ringing? Although I'm not sure if church bells really do anything more than state the time; although they DO connect the ringing with the religion. Carols being sung amount to the same thing, and that is legal (at least on private property).

[chuckwalla]

How many churches ring bells five times a day starting at 6am?
Carols sung at christmas time only, yeah same as prayer call all year long to a religion that has some of it's members vowing to kill us all.
Would you explain how carols are the same?

[Merdoug]

Like you said, carols are religous and Muslim prayers are religous. I'm not condoning those prayers; I'm just pointing out the similarites. For some people who are not of the Christian faith, hearing Christmas carols forced upon them every year may be just as irritating as those endless chants. I love carols, personally; I think some of them are the most beautiful songs ever written, but others may not feel that way. The same goes for Valentines Day, for that matter. Being single (and loney), I get very saddened when that holiday comes around and I hear all of those "love" commercials on the radio. But I have to just try to tune them out. I'm afraid it might come to that for those Muslim prayer chants too.

[chuckwalla]

WOW!!!!!!!!!
Carols are forced on people?
Carols are in no way anywhere near the muslim call to prayer five times a day 365 days a year.
That's like saying freedom is forced on people.
Change yourself if you are having trouble.
We should perhaps ban everything that might annoy one person.
That means we ban advertising of all kinds.
Of course free speach has to go.
I don't like yellow cars so they go too. Offensive.
This country was founded on freedom of a certain kind and all those who find it offensive should start their own country.
There are plenty of us who like America and don't want to see it obliterated by a very, very small minority of people too lazy to find where they are happiest, if not here.
How many carrolers each year set off bombs and kill hundreds and threaten to kill many more?

[Merdoug]

Uh,...On the one hand you say that people shouldn't stop free speech and on the other hand you want to ban free speech,...when it comes to Muslim prayers. You can't have it both ways. We have the right to express our religion here in America; I'm afraid that includes the Muslim religion too. By-the-way, I am on your side; I don't like that chanting either, :)

[Mears]

How dare you insult my sanator!!!!LOL


I remember the sleeper cells of the Communists in the fifties(I'm an old broad) and it was frightening then,but this is worse.