[BeAllYouCanBe]

"Take any popular group dedicated to "social change" and back-trace their ideological foundations. "

You are right on and accurate and I have scratched the surface on the Marxist scene since my father was a communist from 1925- 1965 and a useful idiot to the movement -- his "comrades" were hateful and mean with love only power and hated the US and our system.

I got to know the face of hate on the members of the party as a kid and I saw the same hate on the VC in Vietnam as a soldier and now the same hate on the faces of the Islamo-fascists with bombs strapped to themselves.

[martian_22]

The force of hate can be clearly seen in people with murderous intent. It goes way beyond the "protection of homeland" honest defender look. It can't be measured with instruments that I know of but one can see it none the less.

Good Lord I'm an Oscar Meyer wiener.