Secret Service: No Oklahoma City bombing tape exists

AP ^ | 4-19-04 | AP

[Joe Hadenuf]

Associated Press

WASHINGTON, D.C. — There's a log describing a tape - but no tape itself.

A Secret Service agent has testified that an agency document written shortly after the Oklahoma City bombing described security video footage and witness testimony - suggesting Timothy McVeigh may have had some help.

The log describes footage showing the federal building explosion, about three minutes after "suspects" exited the Ryder truck used in the blast.

But she says there's no evidence that the tape exists. The government has insisted McVeigh drove the truck alone, and that it had no tapes showing the bombing or the scene at the building before it.

Several people involved with the case say they've never seen footage described in the log.

The agent who testified today at bombing conspirator Terry Nichols' trial says the log was an internal document used to keep track of agents' activities during the bombing investigation.

She said the reports in it may have been based on speculation - and that the Secret Service doesn't vouch for its reliability.

[cyncooper]

The log describes footage showing the federal building explosion, about three minutes after "suspects" exited the Ryder truck used in the blast.

But she says there's no evidence that the tape exists.

Is not the log entry "evidence the tape exists"?

I certainly say it is. Not proof, but it is "evidence".

[cyncooper]

Oh, enough. Save for my time in the service, I've lived in Oklahoma all of my life, and I can tell you such tinfoil-hat speculations as you've hinted at in this post don't wash here.

The man posted an article from the AP sans comment.

True, replies ensued but up to your post I'm hardpressed to see what you call "tinfoil". There IS a record of a log. That is not conjecture or speculation. There IS then commentary that there is no tape.

It appears to me you made a huge leap here to characterize this report as tinfoil material.

[cyncooper]

Rather an emotional sort, aren't you.

Are you really female, rather than a "Cad"?

[tang-soo]

For an awesome interview by Jim Quinn and Rose with David Shippers and Jayna Davis go to the warroom archives and click on the April 20, 2004 show. Move the slide bar to 1 hour and 19 minutes. Its about 40 minutes long. She ties Atta and other Iraqi intel people with Ok City. I'm pretty sure she claims in this interview and her book at Atta is John Doe #2. This is a must listen.By the way, you may have to wait a minute or so for the buffer to spool.

[sox_the_cat]

not really jovial either

[Spirited]

Thank you for doing everything possible to expose the lies.

These (often government paid) shills used to get away with misdirection by accusing everyone of needing tin-foil using the art of ridicule.
It now has become obvious that they are the ones who belong in the traitor's shoes, or at least the shoes of those to whom truth is anathema.
Just how do we know that THEY are not Iraqi sympathizers who want desperately to obscure whatever can now be hidden?

[Joe Hadenuf]

Well said.

[Joe Hadenuf]

I have no further interest in debating this with you

That's because you got KOd but good on this thread.

I suggest you stick to threads that are more upbeat, threads that are geared for fun that avoid possible unpleasant, facts and details.

[A Jovial Cad]

*That's because you got KOd but good on this thread*

Ha, ha, yeeah, *foiled*, so to speak, again! The elite troopers of the aluminum headgear brigade chalk up another win over a poor, defeated foe.
Next up: intensive keyboard-to-keyboard combat with some smart-aleck who believes the earth is shaped in the form of a sphere, instead of a pancake.
I'll stay tuned!

[Joe Hadenuf]

Ha, ha, yeeah, *foiled*, so to speak, again!

No, you were KOd but good.

I'll let the memorialized written words of the thread speak for itself.

[TigersEye]

Thank you for doing everything possible to expose the lies.

Well said.

Thank you both. I'm not in a position to investigate like OKCSubmariner or others but I can try to knock down obfuscations so that inquiry and discussion can go on. It's not much but I can do it. It does seem very suspicious when someone trys to disrupt simple discussion. Some are probably just know-it-alls others may be something else entirely. Either way their efforts serve ill purposes.

I'll let the memorialized written words of the thread speak for itself.

And for those who read objectively they do. : )