Where was God when I needed him? (get a hanky ready)

Unattributed | 4/19/04 | Unknown

[Agnes Heep]

The greatest gift God gives us is freedom, and the price of freedom is that we are subject to the forces of the cosmos.

[navygal]

This is good, I read this awhile ago.

[OldFriend]

Thank you for this.

[tioga]

It's a beautiful story.

[Skywalk]

You believe that?

I mean, God could not have designed a universe where our own bodies would not become our enemies? Sure, death by strangulation, earthquake, storms, mudslides, drowning, stabbing, bludgeoning, starvation--all these makes sense--but cancer or viruses couldn't have been excluded?

We would still have freedom if there weren't viruses, cancers, etc and you know it.

[truth4]

http://www.ousob.com/mediafiles/i_can_only_imagine.asx

[hole_n_one]

It's way over my head, too.

[truth4]

Try GOD

[rudypoot]

My Immortal by Evanescence

I'm so tired of being here. Suppressed by all my childhood fears.
And if you have to leave, I wish that you would just leave.
Cause your presence still lingers here, and it won't leave me alone.
These wounds won't seem to heal, this pain is just too real,
there's just too much that time cannot erase.

Refrain:

When you cried I'd wipe away all of your tears,
When you'd scream I'd fight away all of your fears.
I held your hand through all of these years.
But you still have... All of me.

You used to captivate me by your resonating mind,
Now I'm bound by the life you left behind.
Your face it haunts my once pleasant dreams
Your voice has chased away all the sanity in me.
These wounds won't seem to heal, this pain is just too real,
there's just too much that time cannot erase.

[Refrain]

I tried so hard to tell myself that you're gone. But though you're still with me,
I've been alone all along.

[Refrain]

[SVTCobra03]

My grandfather, father and cousin all died from cancer and my wife died of a heart attack. I was diagnosed with canc er two and a half years ago and have been cancer-free for two years now. My faith in God has never wavered and instead grows stronger every day. When He calls you home the manner of your death is insignificant.

[Skywalk]

It is difficult to respond to such a post because, for me, the deaths of your loved ones is a very sad topic and one with which you can have entangled other beliefs(as we all do.)

Philosophically, it is easy to observe that we do not agree on this issue. I don't think anyone is called home, be it from murder or cancer or volcano. The very idea that thousands would be "called home" during a volcano all at the same time seems a bit odd.

I think we die when we die because we are killed. I think the very processes that allowed life to develop also contribute to cancers and other diseases that afflict us.

It's not really a comment on God, but a comment on the attributes people assign to God, which I don't believe really exist.

The plan is for you to live your life and live it well, I think. But if an evil man or the destructiveness of nature takes you before you even reach adulthood, that is but tragic accident.

It doesn't mean that there can't be a God, Gods, Force or whoever or that you can't go to a Heaven or Paradise, etc--just that I don't think what we do is a "plan."

[Blood of Tyrants]

What the dickens are you talking about. God DID design an Earth without poverty and sickness and death. It was sin that caused all these terrible things.

God's greatest gift besides our very existance is a way to be cleansed completely of our sins once we leave this life by sending His son to die as the perfect sacrifice atoning all sins forever. Man was condemned to death by the sins of one man and man was redeemed from the curse of death by the death of one who had no sin at all.

[harbinger of doom]

NT, sky...the ways of dying you listed would bring (and does bring) as much outrage toward God, if not more. Your categories are funny, too.

So instead of your own body being an enemy, you prefer nature and other men to kill you.

Next, nothing to see here....

[Agnes Heep]

I think my belief system is structured perhaps a bit differently than yours. I don't see the morphological entities of the cosmos as having been deliberately created. I see the fundamental reality of the cosmos as having been created, with the cosmos and everything in it arising from the natural progression of events thus set in motion, without interference by God. God recognizes Man because, as a consequence of that progression, Man has developed the sapience to recognize God.

[Agnes Heep]

Sorry, I'm not a Christian. Preach it to the choir.

[sakic]

God DID design an Earth without poverty and sickness and death. It was sin that caused all these terrible things.

God was outfoxed by sin or he doesn't much care?

[Blood of Tyrants]

You seem confused. First you deny the existance of God, then you claim that there is some sort of "plan". If there is no God, there is no good and there is no evil except in the minds of men which are subject to change and folly.


I know that there are things I cannot comprehend such as to exactly why Einstein's Theory of Relativity works yet I have faith that it does.

I soundly reject your arguments.

[tbpiper]

God could not have designed a universe where our own bodies would not become our enemies?

That's what sin really does to us all. It's not all the damn's or hell's you've said. Nor is it all the chaitable work you've done. It boils down to this, God has made a way for all humanity to be reconciled to Him. You don't have to blow yourself up, nor do you have to murder infidels. It is simply the whole hearted acceptance of His sacrifice for you and you placing your trust in Him.

It's all over my head, too. I just know it's the truth.

[US admirer]

If God did not exist it would be necessary for us to invent Him. -Voltaire