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1 posted on 04/19/2004 3:32:44 PM PDT by presidio9
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2 posted on 04/19/2004 3:34:41 PM PDT by Fedora
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There are about 700 documented UFO sightings each year in Canada, he said.

Mass hysteria.

3 posted on 04/19/2004 3:37:04 PM PDT by verity (A Vote for Kerry is a vote for National Suicide!)
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UFO seen whizzing over city

I wonder if extraterrestrial beer is any good?

4 posted on 04/19/2004 3:37:24 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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***UFO seen whizzing over city ***

Well, they have to go somewhere.
5 posted on 04/19/2004 3:38:36 PM PDT by irishtenor (Taglines for sale - please inquire within.)
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Good start. Now go over to France and start whizzing there.
6 posted on 04/19/2004 3:38:36 PM PDT by kcar (Who would OBL vote for?)
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UFO seen whizzing over city

Eeeewwwww. Get out the umbrella.

7 posted on 04/19/2004 3:38:52 PM PDT by FourPeas
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UFO seen whizzing over city

I hope the people on the ground had umbrellas

8 posted on 04/19/2004 3:39:13 PM PDT by aomagrat ("Where weapons are not allowed, it is best to carry weapons.")
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I watched the opening of "Mars Attacks" yesterday. It was still a bad movie.
9 posted on 04/19/2004 3:39:52 PM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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AL Gore invented UFOs.
11 posted on 04/19/2004 3:40:22 PM PDT by pbear8 (no complaining...Thanks be to God)
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This oughtta explain it:

Canada 'sells US high-grade pot'

13 posted on 04/19/2004 3:42:09 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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Bush, Cheney, Halliburton... connect the dots.
14 posted on 04/19/2004 3:42:53 PM PDT by Buck72
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Don't whizzle on our Canizzle.
18 posted on 04/19/2004 3:49:06 PM PDT by Delbert
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Good Heavens, Who's Next?!


20 posted on 04/19/2004 3:50:08 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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"I don't think this was the 5:15 from Mars on an approach, ay?

It's puzzling, ay?

Didn't appear on radar, ay?

It sounded a little like an airplane, ay? ... but they were absolutely positive (it wasn't), ay?

"I don't particularly believe in Martians, ay?.. but I have an open beer in mind. There is something else out there, ay?" the man said.

"It was kind of angling away, ay?"

Another witness, who also asked not to be named, said he had no idea what the object was. "I've seen a lot of things and we can't find an explanation for this, ay?" he said.

Rutkowski is hoping to locate more people who saw the object.

Hosers, ay>

32 posted on 04/19/2004 4:33:35 PM PDT by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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April 17, 2004

Investigators seek clues in UFO sightings

Area residents describe what they saw on night of April 8.

By ANITA MUNSON
Tribune Staff Writer

Roger Sugden, center, assistant state director of the Mutual UFO Network, or MUFON, discusses the location of the UFO spotted by Bev Carpenter, left, as it hovered over her property near Rochester. Robbie Crull, right, also saw the object from her home about a half-mile away.

Tribune Photos/JIM RIDER

ROCHESTER -- Bev Carpenter's hands painted pictures in the warm blue sky, the sound of birds punctuated by her testimony of the only thing investigators found missing: The UFO she saw the night of April 8.

Roger Sugden, assistant director of Mutual UFO Network Indiana, and MUFON state section director Stewart Hill, went to Carpenter's rural home Friday to look into reports by at least seven people in three counties of sightings of something they can't explain.

MUFON, headquartered in Littleton, Colo., is an international scientific organization of people who are seriously interested in studying and researching unidentified flying objects and was founded in 1969.

Sugden and Hill went to Carpenter's property for a physical look for two reasons:

"The type of structure that was reported was rare," Sugden, who lives in Fort Wayne, said. All of the witnesses have described a disc-shaped object with lights.

"And to have multiple witnesses (also is rare)," Hill added.

The pair conducted interviews with Carpenter and Robbie Crull, among others. Crull lives only about a half-mile from Carpenter, on County Road 400 North. When Carpenter went on a Rochester radio station last week to talk about her experience April 8, several callers said they had seen the object in the air, as well.

The incident happened around 10 p.m. on April 8. Carpenter saw it to the south of her home about 400 yards away. Crull said it looked as if it were "in my yard," and a third witness in Miami County, Gene Winters, told The Tribune earlier this week that whatever it was hovered only 35 to 50 feet above the pond in his back yard located mid-way between Mexico and Denver.

A couple of other Fulton County residents and two additional Marshall County witnesses also were to be interviewed by Sugden and Hill Friday afternoon.

Sugden, who served in the U.S. Army during Vietnam, and who currently owns an aerial photography business in Fort Wayne, was enthusiastic about the investigation, but far from excitable. Hill, a retired Bayer Corp. employee who lives in Elkhart, was calm as the pair looked for any possible explanation of what the object could be.

Standing outside her home, Carpenter extended her arm and pointed off to the south to show the investigators where she and her 13-year-old granddaughter first saw two sets of three lights about 400 yards from the house as they came home around 10 p.m. April 8.

Sugden's eyes followed Carpenter's finger as it traced a path in the clear blue sky.

"I tell you, Roger, it was humongous," Carpenter said.

Sugden assured her he has with him many pieces of equipment with which to take many types of measurements.

Crull, a former employee with the Fulton County Sheriff's Department and also a former private investigator, said she and her son "didn't have time to be scared" when they saw what they think was the same object Carpenter saw in the night sky.

Bev Carpenter of rural Rochester holds a drawing she made to show investigators what the UFO looked like as it hovered over her property. Carpenter said the object was disc-shaped with three lights to the left and another three lights to the right. At least six other witnesses from Fulton, Miami and Marshall counties said they, too, saw the object.

Now, though, the experience has the retiree from Crull's Christian Academy wondering if whatever it was is still out there.

"It makes me think there are probably other things out there besides just us," Crull said.

"Hers (Carpenter's sighting) was a lot further away from the house than ours was," Crull said.

The walk from Carpenter's immediate yard downhill southward, where investigators checked out fallen limbs and other growth, was filled with buttercups, spring beauties, wild violets and other signs that nature had been left untouched.

The group then reached the dip where Carpenter had, on Easter while looking for mushrooms, observed a circle of fallen tree limbs. Sugden took magnetic, electric, radio and microwave readings in the area.

"Nothing's spiking up," he told the crowd. He also noted that there were "no burnt tree tops."

Both Sugden and Hill photographed the area.

Sugden and Hill tramped around the underbrush a bit longer, and WSBT-TV news reporter Ray Roth focused his camera on Sugden, asking him pertinent questions about his activities.

Suddenly, the audio on Roth's camera went haywire, producing a "buzzing" not only in Roth's ear but as background to the interview. The camera had worked just fine up at the house.

"This is kind of crazy," Roth said, fiddling with the buttons, checking to see if something he had done had made the equipment behave in a peculiar manner.

Sugden produced an inexpensive tape recorder with a never-before-used tape, turned it on, spoke several sentences, and stopped the tape. He then replayed it. Sure enough, that same buzz could be heard in the background.

When the group began walking back toward the house, Roth again checked his camera. The audio was again clear.

Sugden tried the same experiment with the tape recorder. It, too, was clear.

Sugden said he'd return to the dip where the tree limbs lay in a circle and take some additional readings.

Hill said whatever findings the pair collects from their full day of investigation will be posted on the organization's Web site at www.mufon.com.

Carpenter's initial report of the sighting was posted on the Web site of the National UFO Reporting Center, headquartered in Seattle, at www.nuforc.org/webreports/034/S34815.html.

"I'm really curious whether they (the investigators) believe us, or think we're just kooks," Crull said. "But I'm glad they're willing to walk around and check out what we're telling them we saw."

She's had some second thoughts about UFOs since the experience, too.

"If we (the witnesses) had all seen it in the same place, that would have been one thing," Crull continued, still mulling it over in her head. "But there's a half-mile difference between Bev's place and mine, and then there's the people in Miami and Marshall counties, too. It's really weird."

"I keep going back to the fact that when the lights (on the UFO) went out, it was still there," Crull said. "Maybe it's still there ... Maybe they are there more often than we realize."

Staff writer Anita Munson:

amunson@sbtinfo.com

(574) 936-2920

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35 posted on 04/19/2004 4:39:37 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (Bush-Cheney 2004...By George, we've got ourselves a President!)
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Some covert testing by the RCAF.
36 posted on 04/19/2004 4:40:23 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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This could be series.


37 posted on 04/19/2004 4:41:30 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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It was $hrillary, flying her "New & Improved" BROOM.
41 posted on 04/19/2004 4:46:26 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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Perhaps a secret American military 'test'. This could be hugh!
43 posted on 04/19/2004 4:51:31 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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UFO seen whizzing over city

Perhaps urine samples would solve the whole UFO controversy......

Ah, piss on this thread........

45 posted on 04/19/2004 4:52:51 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm with the Federal Bureau of Mattresses and Pillows and I'm here to check your tags!)
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