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1 posted on 04/19/2004 10:24:09 AM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
But what about the "rich, Corinthian leather?"
2 posted on 04/19/2004 10:25:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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...church leaders in Córdoba appear reluctant to acknowledge the way Spanish society is evolving.

"Evolving" implies positive change, usually, but not in this case. Hey Spain, too late to shut the barn door now! Have a nice dhimmitude!

6 posted on 04/19/2004 10:30:14 AM PDT by Sender (Gorelick Knew!)
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To: quidnunc
Spain - the new Islamist State - they just don't know it yet.
10 posted on 04/19/2004 10:41:20 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: quidnunc
Good point made by the Catholic writer: how many Christians get to worship freely in majority-Muslim countries, much less at mosques?
12 posted on 04/19/2004 10:54:07 AM PDT by valkyrieanne (Fallujah delenda est.)
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To: quidnunc
I hope the Catholic Church takes a good look at the Dome of the Rock and the Islamic fanatics who practise their beliefs there and they way they have blocked Jewish access to that area.

Give these people an inch and they'll take a mile.

There are plenty of Mosques in North Africa and the Middle East - perhaps they should go back there to worship.

Maybe when the Muslims allow Christian services again in Hagia Sophia in Instanbul, the Christians should permit Muslim services in a Christian House of Worship.

Its incredible the attitude these people have about "tolerance" in western countries and the exact opposite THEY practise in Muslim countries.

Outrageous.
13 posted on 04/19/2004 10:56:40 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: quidnunc
Muslims across Spain are lobbying the Roman Catholic church in the southern city of Córdoba to make a symbolic gesture of reconciliation between faiths by allowing them to pray in the city's cathedral.

OK. When the jihadis make a "symbolic gesture" of not killing innocent non-muslims.

15 posted on 04/19/2004 11:06:47 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: quidnunc
So I'm assuming that their PA bretheren are going to let the Jews into the Dome of the Rock to worship where the temple once stood...oh..they aren't?...well than, you tell those Moors where they can shove it.
18 posted on 04/19/2004 11:16:33 AM PDT by Blue Scourge (Off I go into the Wild Blue Yonder...)
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To: quidnunc
They ask to be permitted to worship a different God there (denying the divinity of Jesus Christ and inserting the false prophet Mohamed) yet they largely ignore just how the mosque came to be. They subjugated the indigenous people!

Nowadays, Córdoba is a small provincial capital in one of the poorer regions in the Spanish interior, but 1,000 years ago it was one of the great cities of the world.

As the capital of Moorish Spain, Córdoba became one of Islam's holiest places, and a centre of Islamic art and scholarship to rival Baghdad.

The original mosque was built in the eighth century, following the conquest.

It was expanded by successive generations of rulers until the city was taken by the Christians again in the 13th century.

[snip]The addition of the cathedral was only the most recent change of use for a site that has seen the ebb and flow of the world's great religions.

The Visigoths had their own cathedral on the site before they were defeated by the Moors. Before that, a temple to the Roman god Janus had stood there.

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

"Important holy site" my eye.

21 posted on 04/19/2004 11:45:02 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe Urban Outfitters should sell t-shirts that say "Voting Democrat is for Old Dead People.")
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To: quidnunc
If my Spanish cousins fall for this ploy, they deserve what they get.
24 posted on 04/19/2004 11:53:39 AM PDT by Havisham
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Will Christians be able to pray in the mosques of Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Iran or Kuwait?" demanded one contributor to a Catholic website. "Muslims should practise what they preach!"

And what about Jews wishing to pray at the holiest site in Judism, the Temple Mount? Pigs will fly before the Muslims allow that. That's not to say it might not happen one day soon, but if it does it won't be because the Muslims "allowed" it.

27 posted on 04/19/2004 12:12:38 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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If their mosque is now "too small" they should do what we Christians do; take up a collection and build a bigger one!
30 posted on 04/19/2004 12:27:05 PM PDT by T.Smith
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To: quidnunc
The thin edge of the wedge was inserted a few weeks ago with the attacks changing the course of the election, then the new PM just announcing they will pull out of Iraq.

This is just the wedge being pushed in a bit farther.

Spain forgot the lesson learned during the Moorish conquest centuries ago. The lesson will have to be learned all over again.
33 posted on 04/19/2004 12:55:58 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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"The church council doesn't seem to be open to dialogue."

It's a CHURCH. That a Muslim would want to pray there ought to be regarded with extreme suspicion.

35 posted on 04/19/2004 3:24:09 PM PDT by MegaSilver (Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
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To: quidnunc
Give an inch, take a mile:

Mosque's request splits Michigan city

Waiting for the ACLU to step in and say this is unconstitutional.

Now the request by the Bangladeshi al-Islah mosque for permission to air the Arabic call to prayer via loudspeakers five times a day has again revealed tensions.

37 posted on 04/20/2004 12:46:03 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe Urban Outfitters should sell t-shirts that say "Voting Democrat is for Old Dead People.")
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ping
38 posted on 04/20/2004 4:02:14 AM PDT by zip (Monthly donations are the easiest way to say Thanks for FR)
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