Insurgent Iraqis kill six Marines

St. Louis Post-Dispatch ^ | 04/17/2004 | Ron Harris

[Helvan]

HUSAYBAH, Iraq

[Dubya]

Why didn't they?

That is a very good question.

I don't know, but maybe that is the message our American leaders are sending to the Arabs. I hope our leaders will talk to Israel about this hug an arab stuff.

[Iscool]

I don't like saying this but it's begining to feel like VN...
Not a single American casualty is acceptable...Everything and anything at our disposal should be used to guarantee success in our mission...

[bitt]

Just dashed off an e-mail to this Ron Harris and asked him to keep up the coverage and tell our military that we are no longer unaware of what they are going through.

Here's the journalists's e-mail address - I bet he could convey our interests and prrayers to those soldiers and marines...

rharris@post-dispatch.com

[oceanview]

nonsense. way too many freepers want to see a body count, whether they be civilians or those of the insurgents. the insurgents and the terrorists want mass civilian casualties, why should we give it to them?

[Dubya]

We fire bomber countless Japanese cities and their populations too...to break their will, just as we did the Germans. See my post 46. Its time we got past this PC war idea thing. That carries no weight with these types of enemies, anymore than it did with the Nazi, Tojo, N. Korean or Chinese mass attack animals. Unfortunately, they understand but one thing and it is time we give it to them and all who harbor or support them. In post 38 I give a possible scenario or plan for such enclaves as Fallujah.

You are 100% correct.
SEMPER FI Jeff.

[eleni121]

Best plan I've seen yet!

Let's start implementation now!

[bwteim]

Keep hoping the count is 0 to hundreds of bad guys.

[arjay]

In flipping through the channels the other night, I saw Col. Hunt on Mouthy O'Reilly. I stopped there because I really like Col. Hunt.

He said we are going to have to change our tactics in Iraq. IIRC he said that we are letting politics cause too many problems.

I think we are walking a tight rope and it is extremely easy to make the wrong decision. I wish I knew exactly what to do. More than that, I wish Rumsfeld and the military knew exactly what to do. I pray that they do.

I hate the fact that this costing so many lives of our patriotic men and women, but liberty, it seems, is always paid for with blood.

[Just Lori]

I don't think they expected us to retaliate as hard as we did," said Lopez, 40, of Chicago, commander of the 3rd Battalion, 7th Marines.


Keep it up, brave ones! Retaliate even HARDER next time, until they are GONE!

[Jeff Head]

It will only be like Vietnam when:

1. We are not allowed to pursue our enemies.
2. The politicians are more interested in their own political hides than in the lives of our young people.
3. And when the majority of the citizenry cow and do not rise to challenge the leftist, enemy abetting opposition and their un-American activities, includiong greeting the returning soldiers with derision.

We are not nearly there in any of those points as we were in Vietnam, with the exception of number 2 perhaps, particularly on the Demo side. We are straying that way for number one with Fallujah...we need to do the type of things outlined in post 38.

[Dubya]

God rest the souls of these brave soldiers, and God comfort their comrades and loved ones. I have said it before and will do so again now...the solution to the type of atrocity and resistance that Fallujah and other places in Iraq have recently seen, as small a minority as they are of the whole of Iraqis, is direct and brutal for the combatants and those providing them sanctuary and support. To whit: Pull our troops back to the perimeter around Fallujah. Inform the inhabitants and fighters that negotiations are over and that they have 24 hours to evacuate any male under the age of 13 and over the age of 65 and woman and children. Inform them that the death or injury of any who are held against their will or who elect to remain will be on the heads of the militants and tell them this up front...no bones about it, no further negotiations. Process those electing to leave the city through checkpoints looking for any known resistors. Hold any of those who are armed or trying to escape for indefinite internment and intense interrogation. Offer the same 24 hour period to any male between 13 and 64 who wants to surrender and direct them to a different location. Those showing up there without weapons are subject to indefinite internment and intense interrogation. Armed resistors are killed on site. After 24 hours, use MOAB and ARLITE bombing to level the entire place. Then send in one hundred D-9 Cats to level out the rubble with enough dirt and top soil to effectively bury the dead. Salt the ground and soak it with swine fat and place a sign there in the middle of what is left that reads. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Here stood Fallujah and the barbarians who once took refuge within. May the ghostly presence of those who committed atrocities against the United States of America and the Coalition Authority serve as a warning to others who considering the same. Now there remains nothing here but pig fat and salt. To all the innocent whom were allowed to escape we say...De Oppresso Liber. To all those barbarians who chose to fight we say...Sic Simper Tyranus". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IMHO, at this juncture, this is all the miltant Islamics will understand...anything short of this will be viewed as weakness and subject us to continued and increased attacks. Jeff Author of, The Dragon's Fury Novel Series. A techno-thriuller series about America and the next World War

This is very true and very well put.Jeff's post 38-46 and 52 are right on the money.

[alpha-8-25-02]

from my mouth to the Lord's ears'godspeed my brothers!
may you all be part of God's legion.
semper fi!
rev13v10
he who leads into captivity shall go into captivity,he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword.
here is the patience and faith of the saints.

[Jeff Head]

It's way past time that we treat these IslamoFascist extreemists and any population that supports them just like we did the Nazis and Japanese.

[Jeff Head]

I pray we will.

[Jeff Head]

We need to treat the Islamic Jihadists just like we did the Nazis and Japanese, along with any populations that harbpor and support them.

That will prove to be the only workable solution IMHO.

[an amused spectator]

You guys hear about Husaybah?

[oceanview]

the populations in most areas do NOT support them. see the other thread running now on the Najaf residents turning against Sadr. This is exactly what we need to promote. If we were instead bombing Najaf as many suggest here, that situation would be turned completely around.

[alpha-8-25-02]

AMEN
GRACE

[Dubya]

Yes it is. I agree with you on this for sure.

[Jeff Head]

I indicate that it is the case that the majority supports our efforts. I also have not indicated that we should do this to Najaf. I do believe we should do so in Fallujah after we give an appropriate opportunity for unconditional surrender of combatants and escape of those who so desire.

Doing so in Fallujah would probably be enough to cow the rest...but if not, then we do it again, and again, and again to other similar places that fit the same mold until they sue for abject peace.

Sorry, but it is way past time to treat the Islamic Jihadists and those who support them exactly like we did the Nazis and Japanese. I believe that nothing else will prove workable in the short or long term.