Insurgent Iraqis kill six Marines

St. Louis Post-Dispatch ^ | 04/17/2004 | Ron Harris

[Helvan]

HUSAYBAH, Iraq

[Jeff Head]

See my Post 38.

Time to get it done IMHO.

[oceanview]

why didn't Truman use the first atomic bombs on Tokyo then?

we have to make careful decisions here. if these insurgents were a massed army in the field, like the Republican Guard, we would have obliterated them already. But they are mixed in with the population, and if our attacks are indescriminate, and that same population "signs on" to their cause - we'll have 100s of thousands or a million opposing us. We cannot handle that situation.

its tough on these Marines, the losses they are taking, but there is a bigger picture here.

[Jeff Head]

Read THIS.

[Betaille]

"add this whole Jordanian WMD thing to the mix, something's coming...."
Something SHOULD be coming. But im not so sure if it is. I have been pretty dissapointed by the administrations hesitance to confront Iran and Syria. Something should have been done about them months ago.

[oceanview]

Iran is a tougher problem - they have Russian "cover".

[Jeff Head]

We didn't need to nuc Tokyo, we had already fire bombed it and countless other Japanese and German cities...civilians and all in many cases.

Fallujah and the other current hot spots are a vast minority of the Iraqi people and the majority is certainly watching to see how we counter these same types of tyrants and those who abett and harbor tham as those who ruled the country for the last several generations.

IMHO we need to send the animals a message they will never forget and break the will of those who abett and harbor them...just like we did the Germans and the Japanese people.

See my POST 38.

[Rome2000]

and if our attacks are indescriminate, and that same population "signs on" to their cause - we'll have 100s of thousands or a million opposing us. We cannot handle that situation.

Sure we can, we did it in WWII, and its going to take the same thing to win over here.

We nuked the Japs, and they love us.

We bombed civilian populations in Germany as well.

These creatures just need a little radiation and alcohol to get over their mass insanity.

[Betaille]

Iran is a tougher problem - they have Russian "cover".
That traditionally has not been the case. Though I am pretty frustrated by russian 2-facedness in the war on terror for the past year or so.

[Iscool]

I don't think they expected us to respond with the kind of force that we did," said Lopez, 40, of Chicago.

I'm as surprised as they were...I didn't think they could suck the U.S. Marines into such a trap...Started at 8 am...No air support til 4 pm...What's up with that??? No tanks to take out the sniper nests (houses)??? I know it's easy to be an armchair General but still, something doesn't seem right here...

[bitt]

I was just going to post this also - This story just puts it all together. I sure hope we start being a little more "offensive" to the enemy soon.

(see #20)

[oceanview]

i don't understand that aspect of it either. I mean, I can understand why B52 strikes aren't being called in, but where are the helicopters, the A10s, the close air support stuff.

[Jeff Head]

We fire bomber countless Japanese cities and their populations too...to break their will, just as we did the Germans.

See my post 46.

Its time we got past this PC war idea thing. That carries no weight with these types of enemies, anymore than it did with the Nazi, Tojo, N. Korean or Chinese mass attack animals. Unfortunately, they understand but one thing and it is time we give it to them and all who harbor or support them.

In post 38 I give a possible scenario or plan for such enclaves as Fallujah.

[gitmogrunt]

I'm having trouble accepting the way we are "fighting" this war.

Something has happened at the military and political highest levels on our side.

Something's not right in the way we are fighting this now.

[Lancey Howard]

Six Marines were killed and scores of insurgent Iraqis slain

Hmmm.... Needs to be more than "scores".

[Lancey Howard]

At least nine Marines were injured and about 20 Iraqis captured

"Captured"? I don't like "captured".

[Sunshine55]

Amen brother.

[Dubya]

[mikegi]

it looks like St. Louis Post Dispatch is ONLY source of this story so far.

FoxNews.com is echoing the STL report here Report: Five Marines Killed in Iraq:

Elsewhere, U.S. Marines fought pitched battles against about 150 gunmen in Qaim (search), near the Syrian border, the city police chief said. Five Marines and scores of insurgents were killed in the 14-hour battle, an embedded journalist from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported. A U.S. military spokesman could not confirm the report.

[Jeff Head]

See my posts 38, 46 and 52. Way past time for the gloves to come completely off and to preserve American lives as we do so.

God bless you and yours my friend.

[Rome2000]

In post 38 I give a possible scenario or plan for such enclaves as Fallujah

This is a true test of whether America can still do what is necessary to defend itself.

Its going to be a bumpy ride.