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More Great News in the Battleground Poll
The Intellectual Conservative ^ | 15 April 2004 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 04/17/2004 5:01:48 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln

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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
I'd like to believe that this is true. If it is, how did Al Gore get more (popular) votes than George Bush? Has sentiment changed that much in four years

I believe it was the love of money. Remember everyone thought they were gonna retire at 45 a millionaire. I believe people thought Gore would continue that prosperity, even though we now know he would have been a disaster.

I believe people went against their concience and voted Gore for money. They cared more about money than the welfare of the country. Hopefully 9-11 changed that.

21 posted on 04/17/2004 7:56:42 AM PDT by normy ("May all the ambulances in Fallujah have enough fuel to pick up the bodies of the mujahadeen.")
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
"It would take massive amounts of voter fraud (not impossible for the dems, but unlikely)"

According to my Republican Secretary of State in Missouri 32,000 people in St.Louis may have voted at least twice in the 2000 election. Several precincts in Philadelphia Pa.had OVER 100% voter turnout!

22 posted on 04/17/2004 8:00:39 AM PDT by painter
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I've seen those statistics. I've even quoted them as well. Double or triple voting in some democrat (principally minority) strongholds certainly accounts for a lot of votes. But not thirteen million! I don't believe that 60% of the voters are conservative and 37% liberal. Most of the numbers I've seen indicate about a third each of liberal, conservative, and independent. Perhaps, with "liberal" being considered a dirty word in politics (and rightly so--even Kerry, the most liberal senator, won't call himself one) poll respondents miscategorize themselves as conservatives.
23 posted on 04/17/2004 8:19:17 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
I'd like to believe that this is true. If it is, how did Al Gore get more (popular) votes than George Bush?

It's simple really, a bunch of "conservatives" voted for Gore.

The poll referenced in the article identifies the percentage of people who self-define as very conservative or some-what conservative.

The definition of "conservative" does not exist. The threads on this site alone indicate just how difficult it is to define "conservative". We have many here that hold fast to the opinion that any one who stands at the left side of Ghengis Khan is not a "real" conservative. How people define themselves in terms of the political spectrum, versus how they vote in elections will always reflect a very large disconnect.

24 posted on 04/17/2004 8:52:10 AM PDT by been_lurking
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
"I'd like to believe that this is true. If it is, how did Al Gore get more (popular) votes than George Bush? Has sentiment changed that much in four years?"

Foolish conservatives who vote for liberals, convinced by the (liberal) media that the Democrats actually represent them is my #1 guess.

Still the numbers of - "A whopping sixty percent of Americans call themselves “very conservative” or “somewhat conservative” and thirty-seven percent of Americans call themselves either “very liberal” or “somewhat liberal.”"

- is far more favorable to conservatives than I am familiar with. I thought we were more like: 40% conservative, 30% moderate, 30% liberal.


25 posted on 04/17/2004 10:15:11 AM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com - I salute our brave fallen.)
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To: Aeronaut
One theory I have heard is that in states where the outcome could not be changed the absentee ballots just were'nt counted.

I believe that's erroneous.

I believe that absentee ballots tended to favor W overall, too.

Even if it were true they weren't counted, there's no basis for saying they favored Bush and certainly not by a margin that could overcome a half million votes.

26 posted on 04/17/2004 3:10:07 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: WOSG
- is far more favorable to conservatives than I am familiar with. I thought we were more like: 40% conservative, 30% moderate, 30% liberal.

Remember, probably over half of liberals/marxists won't admit it.

27 posted on 04/17/2004 3:20:59 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: wingman1
Notice nearly all of the polls we see just say a certain percentage for Bush vs. a certain % for Kerry. However, they rarely give us the state by state breakdown (electoral college). FOX just said the latest Electoral College poll shows Bush with 294 and Kerry with 244 (That includes Florida in Kerry's column). 270 is needed to win the Presidency. Carl Rove's confidence seems to be justified. (Don't we hope!)
28 posted on 04/17/2004 3:52:33 PM PDT by Winfield
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I saw that report today on The Beltway Boys. It had Bush ahead in NJ and Oregon. I really believe that Kerry is going to get a good old time a$$ whoopin'.
29 posted on 04/17/2004 4:45:40 PM PDT by wingman1 (University of Vietnam '70)
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