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France: Muslim Population Flexing its Muscles
Deutsche Welle ^ | 16 April 2004 | Daryl Lindsey

Posted on 04/16/2004 8:06:31 PM PDT by MegaSilver

Like the U.K., France is one of the EU's biggest melting pots. The largest waves of immigrants in France originated from neighboring Italy, Portugal and Spain as well as its former colonies, including Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia. Like Britain, France shares a long history with Muslims and other cultures for which French has also been the mother tongue. It has also traditionally considered itself a country of immigration, and about 6.3 percent of the country's 58 million population are immigrants. In recent decades, the inward migration trend has shifted from its direct neighbors in Europe to those of Northern Africa and Turkey, significantly increasing France's Muslim population and making it easily the largest in Europe with 5 million. France has a tradition of welcoming immigrants, but the public also expects newcomers to assimilate into the customs and traditions of French society. Accordingly, France does not "recognize differences in culture or religion in the public sphere" as a recent Council of Europe report poignantly stated. The challenges that strategy poses became apparent in recent years with the painful national debate over the hijab, or Muslim headscarf. This September, headscarves, Jewish skullcaps, Sikh turbans and any other "overt religious symbols," including large Christian crosses, will be verboten in schools in the strictly secular nation. Foreigners in France face a number of discriminatory hurdles. Chief among them is their exclusion from almost 6 million jobs that non-EU immigrants are banned from holding, including civil service jobs (including the country's postal service and railways), management positions in the entertainment industry or French newspapers and magazines, many stock market-related jobs and an array of others. On the other hand, immigrants can apply for naturalized citizenship after five years, and children born in France to immigrant parents may apply when they are 18 , provided they have lived there for at least five years. The country also launched a Green Card program in 1998 aimed at drawing highly qualified workers to fill vacant hi-tech jobs.

After the 9/11 attacks, the country's anti-discrimination hotline recorded an upsurge in xenophobic attitudes towards Muslims. And beginning in April 2002, a wave of vandalism and attacks were carried out at Muslim mosques and prayer places. Open Society researchers have cast some of the blame on the media for inciting "muslimaphobia." The media, it reported in 2002, aids the trend of associating "Islam with immigration, criminality, fanaticism and terrorism, thereby providing a justification for exclusion and religiously motivated discrimination."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; headscarf; islam
the strictly secular nation

Call me backward, but I daresay a "strictly secular nation" cannot survive long.

1 posted on 04/16/2004 8:06:38 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver
France is living in a dream world.
2 posted on 04/16/2004 8:09:31 PM PDT by spyone
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To: MegaSilver
OK, it shouldn't come to as a surprise that I am not very sympathetic with the Mohammedan cause. Bearing that in mind, let me tell you that if the Mohammedans don't like it in France, then they should move their mysgonenic and primitive butts back to Algeria, Morocca and Tunisia.
3 posted on 04/16/2004 8:13:38 PM PDT by Bismarck
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To: Bismarck
Yes but the mission is to conquer the world either economically or by mass migrations...

Been dont during Ottoman Empire works great...

Parlez Vous Jihad...
4 posted on 04/16/2004 8:21:23 PM PDT by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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dont=done
5 posted on 04/16/2004 8:21:47 PM PDT by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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To: Flavius
Yes,the Mohammedans want to flood the Western world. And the politically correct authorities don't seem to care...
6 posted on 04/16/2004 8:27:04 PM PDT by Bismarck
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To: MegaSilver
Wonder how long it will be before the Eiffel Tower is turned into a Mosque. I wonder how the frogs will feel when they hear the call to prayer coming from the top of the Arch De Triumph. It will serve them right!
7 posted on 04/16/2004 8:30:26 PM PDT by TonyM (E)
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Well it would be interesting to see the French Fashion Show when all chicks are cowered in sheets...

8 posted on 04/16/2004 8:32:52 PM PDT by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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To: MegaSilver
<p< The figures cited for the Moslem population of France ( 5 of 58 million = 8.6%) are vastly understated. French census rules forbid identifying religion, but authoritative estimates put the Moslem population at a minimum of 10 percent, and some estimates put it as high as 20 percent.
10 posted on 04/16/2004 10:38:25 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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The figures cited for the Moslem population of France ( 5 of 58 million = 8.6%) are vastly understated. French census rules forbid identifying religion, but authoritative estimates put the Moslem population at a minimum of 10 percent, and some estimates put it as high as 20 percent.

That is beyond frightening.

11 posted on 04/16/2004 10:46:32 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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12 posted on 04/16/2004 10:46:43 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 - THE BEST GET BETTER)
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To: TonyM
Wonder how long it will be before the Eiffel Tower is turned into a Mosque

Tony, absolutlety no offense meant, but you realize by Sharia Moo-Slum Law, that can't happen as no mosque can be taller than the one in Mecca. (Yes, yes, I know. Saddam ignored that and built a taller one in Baghdad, but he was a socialist anyway.)

Now, the Notre Dame Cathedral - that's feasible. After all, the Turks did it with the Cathedral in Constantinople, so they'd have zero qualms with Notre Dame.


"I wonder how the frogs will feel when they hear the call to prayer coming from the top of the Arch De Triumph.

You bet, I can envision that. And the Eiffel Tower too.

And when the moo-slums take over the Frog Gubmint (which they will because they breed like vermin), they'll close down the du musée du Louvre for 'repairs', destroy all the art, and turn that into a mosque too!

NOTE TO THE FROGS; Don't call us this time to save your stinkin' country. Been there, done that - TWICE!

13 posted on 04/17/2004 7:51:54 AM PDT by Condor51 ("Diplomacy without arms is like music without instruments." -- Frederick the Great)
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