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President's men bitterly split on Iraq
The Guardian ^ | April 17, 2004 | David Teather

Posted on 04/16/2004 6:54:38 PM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy

President's men bitterly split on Iraq

David Teather in New York Saturday April 17, 2004 The Guardian

The Watergate journalist Bob Woodward is no stranger to publishing sensations, and his latest book again unearths deeply inconvenient details for the man in the White House - and his key ally in Downing Street. The book, Plan of Attack, portrays a pre-war White House as a scheming and divided place, presided over by a sometimes hapless George Bush, driven towards war by a forceful vice-president, Dick Cheney, and an overly confident CIA.

Mr Woodward was given wide access to the White House for the 468-page book, including three-and-a-half hours with President Bush.

Tellingly, the book depicts Mr Bush as being initially sceptical over evidence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction (WMD). In December 2002, less than three months before the invasion, the CIA presented its case that Iraq had WMD, including communications intercepts, satellite photographs and diagrams.

According to a report on the book serialised in today's Washington Post, Mr Bush said: "Nice try. I don't think this quite - it's not something that Joe Public would understand or gain a lot of confidence from."

He turned to the CIA director, George Tenet, and asked: "I've been told all this intelligence about [Iraq] having WMD and this is the best we've got?" Mr Tenet replied: "Don't worry. It's a slam-dunk case."

Some of the central revelations of the book directly touch on Tony Blair, such as the admission by Mr Bush that he delayed the start of war by more than two months just to allow the British prime minister to go through the motions of appealing for broad UN backing for the campaign.

But most of the insight concerns the machinations of the Bush White House, including the early germination of the idea for an Iraq war, and the bitter power struggle to ensure that this idea stayed at the top of the administration's agenda.

Woodward lifts the lid on the personal animosity between Mr Cheney, described as a "powerful steamrolling force" who developed a "fever" about removing Saddam Hussein, and the secretary of state, Colin Powell, who was sceptical. Relations between them chilled to a point where they were barely on speaking terms, the book says.

Mr Powell believed that Mr Cheney was obsessed with drawing a link between the al-Qaida terrorist network and Baghdad, the book claims.

The secretary of state is said to have felt that Mr Cheney and his coterie had "established what amounted to a separate government". The vice-president, for his part, believed that Mr Powell was mainly concerned with his own popularity.

Mr Cheney told friends at a private dinner he hosted to celebrate the outcome of the war that Mr Powell was a problem and "always had major reservations about what we were trying to do".

When on March 19 2003, the White House was deciding whether to move against Saddam before the expiration of a 48-hour deadline for him to leave the country, Mr Cheney was again bullish, against the advice of General Tommy Franks, who was to lead the invasion of Iraq. The president only made the decision to go ahead after clearing everyone from the Oval Office except Mr Cheney, who is quoted saying: "I think we ought to go for it".

Mr Bush persuaded Mr Powell to give the address to the UN pressing the case for war because he had credibility, the Washington Post said.

In one revelation, the book says Mr Bush told his defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, to draw up a war plan for Iraq as early as November 2001. Meetings with Gen Franks and his war cabinet were held throughout the next month. Yet months later the White House was still insisting that war was not inevitable.

The president, fearful of how the decision might play in public, kept details of the meetings secret from members of his own cabinet, including the national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice. The CIA was also initially kept out of the loop.

In one of his interviews for the book, Mr Bush said it would have caused "enormous international angst and domestic speculation" if the plans had leaked.

Gen Franks was said to have uttered "a string of obscenities" when asked to come up with a war plan while fighting the Afghanistan conflict.

Mr Bush himself comes across in the book as strong on faith but weak on his sense of history. He said he was prepared to "risk my presidency to do what I think is right", and described praying as he walked outside the Oval Office after giving the order to begin combat operations against Iraq on March 19 2003.

But asked how history would judge the war, Bush replied: "History. We don't know. We'll all be dead."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bobwoodward; bookreview; planofattack
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Here we go again!
1 posted on 04/16/2004 6:54:38 PM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Why does any Republican talk to Bob Woodward?
2 posted on 04/16/2004 6:55:39 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
What a lying ahole assclown Woodturd.
3 posted on 04/16/2004 6:58:18 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: BibChr
Why does any Republican talk to Bob Woodward?

If they don't, he just makes stuff up and attributes it to them.

4 posted on 04/16/2004 6:58:23 PM PDT by irv
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
The more they attack, the more I am convinced he is right and they are running like scared little kids from an alligator who is about to swallow them up.
5 posted on 04/16/2004 7:01:36 PM PDT by chance33_98 (Shall a living man complain? Oh how much fewer are my sufferings than my sins;)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Consider those bringing confusion and division in this time of our nation's need for resolve and unity as traitors.

They discredit and belittle those lost in action fighting for their freedoms and dishonor their ultimate sacrifice.

6 posted on 04/16/2004 7:01:42 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Here's all you need to know about this book:

ALL BUT ONE SOURCE ANONYMOUS: Woodward interviewed 75 of the people who helped prepare for the attack on Iraq, including President Bush - the only individual who speaks for attribution in the book
7 posted on 04/16/2004 7:01:47 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Bob Woodward. Talk about somebody trading on fifteen minutes of fame ...
8 posted on 04/16/2004 7:03:30 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
"The secretary of state is said to have felt that Mr Cheney and his coterie had "established what amounted to a separate government". The vice-president, for his part, believed that Mr Powell was mainly concerned with his own popularity."


Well the secretary of state needs to inform the American public what the STATE DEPARTMENT knew of the UN's Oil for Food scam that the STATE DEPARTMENT helped cover up!

and I do not care if it was Maddie Albright that did the covering up the paperwork should still be there unless their shredders were going 24/7.

9 posted on 04/16/2004 7:04:17 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
My gut says that the Woodward book will not be a big deal. He was positive on GWB in his original 911 articles. Remember this is the Guardian! If this is the best they got, it is no big deal. The non-DU public is already tired of this crap. We shall see if I am correct next week, I guess.
10 posted on 04/16/2004 7:05:57 PM PDT by fleur-de-lis
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To: irv
If they don't, he just makes stuff up and attributes it to them.

I thought that's what you happens when you do talk to him.

12 posted on 04/16/2004 7:09:41 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Is Woodward interviewing comatose patients again?
13 posted on 04/16/2004 7:09:43 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Ðíé F£éðérmáú§ ^;;^ says, "John Kerry could bore a rock to erosion!")
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To: BibChr
Why does any Republican talk to Bob Woodward?

Because they all knew that Colin Powell has made a career out of leaking stuff to Woodward, so it was better for them to talk to Woodward to get their side of the story out there.

I don't think the book contains anything particularly startling.

Bush asked for a new Iraq war plan because the old one was out of date (during a time when Iraq was routinely shooting at planes in the no-fly zone and not complying with UN resolutions). Bush wanted to make sure that the WMD evidence would be easily understood by "Joe Public". Cheney and Powell disagreed about what to do about Iraq. Bush delayed things to provide cover for Blair. Just about all of this was already known.

14 posted on 04/16/2004 7:10:02 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: fleur-de-lis
Yeah, but it’s the cumulative effect.
15 posted on 04/16/2004 7:10:59 PM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy (Some days you're the Windshield....and some days you're the Bug.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
I just don't understand why Pres. Bush or anyone in his administration would talk or trust this parasite.

Woodward is going on 60 Minutes this Sunday, I believe.

16 posted on 04/16/2004 7:12:00 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: MamaLucci
The president only made the decision to go ahead after clearing everyone from the Oval Office except Mr Cheney, who is quoted saying: "I think we ought to go for it".

So if only Bush and Cheney were in the room, who could quote Cheney?

17 posted on 04/16/2004 7:12:10 PM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: Baynative
His 15 minutes were up LAST century. It sure makes you realize how very stuck in the Watergate era the left is, when they keep pulling this guy out of mothballs.
18 posted on 04/16/2004 7:12:27 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
I love how republicans are "bitterly split" ,
while democrats are always solidly in agreement.

Republican = yawning chasm divides party.
Democrat = minor disagreements do not dismay party activists
who show solidarity with progressive ideas yada yada yada.
19 posted on 04/16/2004 7:16:08 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Oh, this is classic DNC warfare.

Put the other side on the defensive. They are just cranking out all the big guns, and this is Clinton strategy to keep the Bush Administration on the defensive all over the airwaves.

Best way to handle this is to deride deride deride ridicule scoff and just be as eyerolling as Hillary's best.

Oh yeah, this is Willy's signature.
20 posted on 04/16/2004 7:17:34 PM PDT by OpusatFR (John Kerry - Cheezewhiz for the mind - marshmallow mush for the masses)
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