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US Intelligence in 1995 Said Attack on U.S. Possible
Reuters ^ | April 16, 2004 | Tabassum Zakaria

Posted on 04/16/2004 3:37:37 PM PDT by tomball

Edited on 06/29/2004 7:10:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. intelligence report in 1995 raised the possibility of a foreign terrorist attack inside the United States and a 1997 update named Osama bin Laden, U.S. intelligence officials said on Friday in trying to offset a highly critical report from the Sept. 11 commission.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1995; 911commission; gorelick
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To: MamaLucci
Ok .. it's late and this one made my eyes cross

What is it??

http://www.namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb06?GORELICK_JAMIE_S
61 posted on 04/16/2004 7:20:48 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: tomball
"What A Tangled Web" Bump!
62 posted on 04/16/2004 8:07:54 PM PDT by auboy (The 9-11 Commission ain't worth a bucket of warm spit. Make that half a bucket.)
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To: Mo1; ovrtaxt
It looks like the Matrix to me. LOL.

Look how fast McCurry got his talking points (designed to "kill it"):

APRIL 20, 1995, THURSDAY
WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING

THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON, DC

White House press briefing by Mike McCurry:
The Briefing Room -   5:37 P.M. EDT

Q Mike, you have -- it seems clear that you're not going to talk about the investigative stuff, but could you just tell us is the president getting information on the various theories that law enforcement is constructing, or do they just basically say to him okay, now we have this information, that there are two specific people being sought? How deep is he getting into it?

MR. MCCURRY: Well, he is following the matters closely enough to make sure that proper law enforcement efforts are underway and that they are exploring every possible lead. I think it's up to those who are doing the investigation to discuss whatever theories or operational theories they have as to the investigation itself. And clearly again we would stress that a lot of the speculation as to these theories, as you can see today, have turned out to be wrong as the facts developed.

Q Has he had any conversations with Louie Freeh, and has Mr. Freeh been over here today?

MR. MCCURRY: Director Freeh has not been because he's been very actively involved back at Washington. In fact, I can tell you that at one point earlier on today there was a discussion with the president about where he would be most usefully deployed, either here in Washington or in Oklahoma City, and we were satisfied -- the president was satisfied when he was told that the emergency response planning that had been done at Justice called for the director to be where he is doing what he's doing. So he is staying there and active. The president gets very good first-hand accounts of some of the law enforcement efforts either directly from the attorney general or from Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick, who has been over here a couple of times and has participated in several of these senior team meetings I've been talking about.

Q What has turned out to be wrong?

MR. MCCURRY: What has turned out -- some of the mistaken speculative judgments by people who are on the air waves talking about things they don't know about.

Q Like what?

MR. MCCURRY: I'm not going to refer to any specific people, but I think there are a lot of theories that have turned out to be incorrect. There have been a lot of assumptions about who might be responsible that are just not correct to make at this point based on what the facts are. They may or may not be wrong. We don't -- as the attorney general has made abundantly clear, we don't have enough facts to speculate about motives, about connections, about sponsorship and so on and so forth.
 
(snip)

Q Can I get you to expand on something, Mike? You just said a lot of the speculation you've seen today turned out to be wrong as the facts developed. Were you referring specifically to the fact that they're looking for two white males in the case?

MR. MCCURRY: There was just -- you know, there's been enormous amounts of speculative commentary by experts, people who I think are well-intentioned and whose news organizations are seeking out for commentary. They're not in a position to have facts that allow them to comment about specifically the Oklahoma City incident. And I think your audiences might, you know, jump to certain conclusions based on expert commentary that they're hearing that are not informed by the facts. And that's one of the reasons among many that many of us have urged people to sort of slow down a little bit and make sure you understand exactly what facts are worth reporting.

As you've just heard the FBI indicate earlier, all day long today there've been reports about arrests in Dallas and people in custody and, you know, the FBI is not aware of any of that, as they've just reported to you.
 
(snip)

Q Mike, you say that this individual who's being brought back from London is a material witness --

MR. MCCURRY: I quoted the Justice Department saying that.

Q Was a material witness to what? Material witness to --

MR. MCCURRY: I quoted the Justice Department suggesting that they believe he might be a possible material witness in the investigation of this incident. If you want to follow, you know, please go to Justice on that.

(snip)

Q Mike, the way the president described the incident today suggested it was an attack on the United States, which would insinuate that it was a foreign-based effort rather than a domestically-based effort. Is that his intention?

MR. MCCURRY: The president made it very, very clear to you that you should not make any false judgments or assumptions about sponsorship or motives. He said that many, many times in that press conference, and that was very authoritative. What he was pointing out very clearly is that acts of terror are designed to disrupt the lives of all Americans, regardless of their sponsorship or motive, whether domestic or international.

They're designed to get us to fear ourselves and each other in ways that don't us to proceed with life the way we want to live it. And that in a sense disrupts what we are as Americans and what our country is. And that's the point the president was addressing himself to at noon.


63 posted on 04/16/2004 8:08:32 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
Oh, and btw, those 10 Arabic translators from the military that someone from FBI had requested were ordered to 'stand down' by the next day - Friday, the 21st.
64 posted on 04/16/2004 8:11:33 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Mo1; ovrtaxt

And just for the record, this is the type of stuff they were working feverishly to "kill:"

CNN
NEWS 12:28 pm ET
April 19, 1995
Live Report
News; International

Washington Reacts to Oklahoma City Explosion

 JILL DOUGHERTY; REID COLLINS

Washington officials react to today's Oklahoma City federal building explosion. FBI agents have been dispatched from the capital, while apparent terrorist connections are being explored.

(snip)
 
BOB CAIN: CNN's White House correspondent, Jill Dougherty, has been working that beat. Let's find out from Jill Dougherty what the White House has to say. Jill.
 
JILL DOUGHERTY, Correspondent: Reid, here at the White House, the president's chief of staff, Leon Panetta, has been holding a meeting to coordinate the administration response to the explosion in Oklahoma City. At that meeting are Jamie Gorelick [sp], the deputy attorney general, the chief of staff, Leon Panetta, and James Lee Witt, head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
 
Press Secretary Mike McCurry says the president is very troubled by news reports of the blast. He was informed just at the top of the meeting with the Turkish prime minister. The president has asked his chief of staff to stay in contact with Attorney General Janet Reno on any assistance that might be needed. Reno has dispatched an FBI team to Oklahoma City.
 
The White House, at this point, is not speculating on any reason for the blast, but we do expect that we should be getting some more information a little bit later at a briefing by press secretary Mike McCurry. That is scheduled to take place at 1:15, just about a half-an-hour from now. Reid?
 
REID COLLINS: Jill, has anybody assigned, officially, any cause for this, any source for it?
 
JILL DOUGHERTY: Here at the White House, Reid, they have not. They are not saying anything. It seems very early for them.
 
REID COLLINS: All right, Jill Dougherty.
 
Jack McGeorge is a former U.S. Secret Service specialist in munitions counter-measures and technical security. He now runs his own public safety group. He's with us here in Washington. Jack, as you look at the scale of that building, as if it's been peeled down, what does it look like?
 
JACK McGEORGE, Terrorism Expert: Well, very clearly, Reid, it was a very large bomb. My guess would be it's 1,000 pounds or more, very possibly in a car or a small truck, probably parked very close to the front of the building as we see it - could have been in a one-layer underground, but very likely in the driveway. The secondary bombs that apparently have been found - my guess would be that they were intended for the rescuers, and to impede that rescue effort. The damage that I see looks most similar, historically, to the tremendous damage done to the U.S. embassy in Beirut in the early 1980s.
 
(snip)
 
REID COLLINS: What- what about the other devices that were allegedly found and then taken in custody? Are- are these valued pieces of clues?
 
JACK McGEORGE: Tremendously valuable. Since they did not explode and apparently have been successfully disarmed, from what we hear, that will give us a chance to look at how they twisted their wires, what kind of components did they use. Perhaps there is a unique component in there that we could trace right to the source. That is a tremendously valuable piece of evidence.

(snip)


65 posted on 04/16/2004 8:21:33 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
I thin I remember hearing back then about a second bomb .. wasn't there a point during the rescue they had to clear the area?? Oh and for this part?? .. and the Dems get on President Bush's case ??

Press Secretary Mike McCurry says the president is very troubled by news reports of the blast. He was informed just at the top of the meeting with the Turkish prime minister. The president has asked his chief of staff to stay in contact with Attorney General Janet Reno on any assistance that might be needed. Reno has dispatched an FBI team to Oklahoma City

66 posted on 04/16/2004 8:33:11 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Nita Nupress
Yes, more bombs at the site, not detonated and recovered. Then heavy equipment within a couple of days to clean up. And a massive effort by the FBI to convince people that what they saw was not really what they saw, as in TWA 800. The people of OKC know better.
67 posted on 04/16/2004 8:41:35 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (I think the mistake a lot of us make is thinking the state-appointed shrink is our friend.Jack Handy)
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To: ovrtaxt
Two points:

1.  In an effort to justify Clinton's new anti-terrorism legislation, Gorelick complains here that Posse Comitatus limits their use of military resources.  Yet just one week earlier, the FBI requested and received 10 Arabic translators, something Gorelick is claiming here to be forbidden..

2.  Read the last paragraph where she says "the greatest possible coordination in the sharing of information and intelligence" would help in future situations.  I think she forgot about her March 4th 'Make-a-Wall' Memo. LOL!

 

APRIL 26, 1995, WEDNESDAY
WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING

JAMIE GORELICK, DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL
BRUCE REED, DEPUTY ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT FOR DOMESTIC POLICY
RON NOBLE, UNDERSECRETARY OF THE TREASURY FOR ENFORCEMENT
TOPIC: ANTI-TERRORISM LEGISLATION

MS. GORELICK: I am going to brief you on the President's announcement today, on the remainder of the legislative package. The President announced, as you know, several elements of the legislative package on Sunday. We have been working, the Justice Department and the Treasury Department, with the White House on the development of additional legislative proposals, reflecting cooperation throughout the administration, and with the leadership.

The steps that we are taking are:  One, to hire, and seek the funding to hire, approximately a thousand new agents, prosecutors, and other federal law enforcement and support personnel to investigate, deter, and prosecute terrorist activity. That, combined with the establishment of a domestic terrorism center, coordinated by the FBI, coordinated with other law enforcement agencies, including the ATF and state and local law enforcement, and working collaboratively with our intelligence agencies, are the two most significant things that we can do to address the kind of tragic event that we had in Oklahoma City, and to prevent similar occurrences in the future.

The remainder of the legislation is programmatic. [snip - elaborates about the proposals in the new legislation]

Q And on the Posse Comitatus, could you talk about specifically what would the power be to do what?

MS. GORELICK: Well, right now we can go to the military service for advice with respect to chemical weapons or biological weapons. But if we had someone who had a cache of chemical weapons, and we were trying to take those away, we were trying to disarm that person, we could only get advice from the military. We could not use their considerable expertise, their talent, their equipment, their personnel, to help take those chemical weapons safely. And that is the precise kind of assistance that we would want to have in a circumstance like that. [Like asking the military to send down 10 Arabic translators?  That kind of "personnel?") We do not have that expertise helping to seize, helping to protect an area, helping to protect personnel -- law enforcement personnel who are involved in an operation -- that kind of thing.
Yes?

Q Which of these proposals might have prevented the Oklahoma incident?

MS. GORELICK: Well, it's very hard to say, because of the early stage of this investigation. And I might say, though, that the things that clearly would help us in future similar situations would be more resources and the greatest possible coordination in the sharing of information and intelligence.

 

What a hypocrite!

68 posted on 04/16/2004 8:45:29 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
"That Wall" seems to have been a problem later:

1999: Reno says China campaign funds probe 'was not impaired'( By the Wall )

69 posted on 04/16/2004 9:10:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Dog
The wheels have come off the Bush bashing bandwagon......:-)

Big Time... All kinds of researching going on here... to keep them off..... see this:

1999: Reno says China campaign funds probe 'was not impaired'( By the Wall )

70 posted on 04/16/2004 9:16:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: ovrtaxt
Thanks for another good ping, ovrtaxt!!
71 posted on 04/16/2004 9:18:34 PM PDT by potlatch ( Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: Mo1
I've come across one of those before, and it seems to be a by subscription, "6 degrees of separation" type thingy for the incestuous beltway social social scene.
72 posted on 04/16/2004 9:47:52 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: tomball
Is Kean still nattering on about the superb work of the vaunted commission staff? They were VERY sloppy on this one. What else did they screw up?
73 posted on 04/16/2004 10:17:25 PM PDT by cookcounty (LBJ sent him. Nixon expressed him home. And Kerry's too dumb to tell them apart!)
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To: tomball
Note how they don't even say the name "Clinton" once here?
74 posted on 04/16/2004 10:19:13 PM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: Nita Nupress
I vote for dumping the whole 22 pages here on FR, maybe put it on a thread all its own.

And while we're on this subject, I'd like to suggest we come up with a list of questions that we'd like asked of Gorelick regarding the memo.

I'll start out with these:

1. Under whose direction did you write the memo?

2. Did you get any suggestions from anyone about what to say in the memo and if so, from whom?

3. Did you attend meetings where the subject of the memo was discussed, either before or after you wrote the memo?

4. Who was in attendance at those meetings?

4a. What was the substance of the discussion?

5. Did you give the memo to anyone to review and if so, who?

6. Did the memo have to be approved by anyone before distribution and if so, by whom?

7. To whom was the memo distributed?

8. In your opinion, why was the memo written?

9. After the memo was distributed, did you receive communications from anyone regarding the memo, and if so, who?

10. What was the substance of the communications?

...care to add to this list?
75 posted on 04/16/2004 10:22:24 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Perfection is the enemy of good enough.)
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To: Nita Nupress
"Have we determined the exact motivation for Gorelick writing her March 4, 1995 memo yet? "

I wondered about that, too. What prompted Goerlick one day to get out of bed, go to work, and issue this memo? If, as she has indicated, it was "statutory," then why bother with the memo?  

76 posted on 04/16/2004 10:24:18 PM PDT by cookcounty (LBJ sent him. Nixon expressed him home. And Kerry's too dumb to tell them apart!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Wall memo was written before the OKC bombing, but when had the investigation into CLinton's funding started?

Remember the memo was directed to the prosecutor who was in charge of the funding investigation and the first WCT attack.

So many, smoking guns...

Anyway, the important thing now is to make sure that every (radio) talkshow host who is listening in on FR will ask the Commissioners not if but when Ms Gorelick is going to testify!
77 posted on 04/16/2004 11:31:06 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: cookcounty; ScaniaBoy
What prompted Goerlick one day to get out of bed, go to work, and issue this memo?

I think we are all scavegning around and looking for an answer to that one.

Who shared what with whom, seems to be a recurring issue:

1999: Reno says China campaign funds probe 'was not impaired'( By the Wall )

78 posted on 04/16/2004 11:44:22 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I want to see Ijaz testify in public also!
79 posted on 04/16/2004 11:46:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: thoughtomator
hell, no mention of clinton!
80 posted on 04/16/2004 11:53:12 PM PDT by Cosmo (If Iraq is Bush's Vietnam, then Ted Kennedy is Bush's Jane Fonda)
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