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Starsky and Putsch: Why Americans Don't get Europe [Mark Steyn]
National review via Steyn Online ^
| April 15, 2004
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 04/15/2004 4:25:20 PM PDT by NovemberCharlie
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A good one from Steyn.
To: *Mark Steyn list; Pokey78
Ping to the Steyn List, and to your list.
To: NovemberCharlie
I missed Charlie's Angels and now that its out on DVD, I can see the attraction it had for people back then not to mention all that eye candy!
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posted on
04/15/2004 4:29:01 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: NovemberCharlie
America and Europe have stretched the formula way beyond breaking point. It can't be put back together. Sums up his point nicely.
Unfortunately, he's right.
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posted on
04/15/2004 4:37:41 PM PDT
by
EternalHope
(Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
To: goldstategop
I was a teenager back then and somewhat odd -- I liked Kate Jackson (the smart one).
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posted on
04/15/2004 4:43:02 PM PDT
by
You Dirty Rats
(WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
To: NovemberCharlie
Just over a year ago, in one of those wretched Security Council performances before the Gulf War, the French Foreign Minister, Dominique de Villepin, turned to Colin Powell and offered the umpteenth variation of the familiar argument that, if we Europeans are resistant to ze idea of war, it is because we have seen so much of ze horrors of ze war. The reality is the other way round: the reason they've seen so much of the horrors of war is because they're so resistant to the idea of it - until it's too late and conflagration is all that's left. Ta Da! Steyn, holy kelbasa! You're beautiful!!
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posted on
04/15/2004 4:44:24 PM PDT
by
mc5cents
To: NovemberCharlie
bump for later enjoyment.
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posted on
04/15/2004 4:46:29 PM PDT
by
Ruth A.
To: NovemberCharlie
The reality is the other way round: the reason they've seen so much of the horrors of war is because they're so resistant to the idea of it - until it's too late and conflagration is all that's left. Steyn gets right to the point like nobody's business.
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posted on
04/15/2004 4:49:38 PM PDT
by
workerbee
To: SJackson; knighthawk; dennisw; Pokey78; jennyp; RightWhale; cardinal4; Luis Gonzalez; ...
Another excellent one from Steyn.
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posted on
04/15/2004 4:54:00 PM PDT
by
TopQuark
To: NovemberCharlie
The reality is the other way round: the reason they've seen so much of the horrors of war is because they're so resistant to the idea of it - until it's too late and conflagration is all that's left. Maybe they're so tired (in an existential sense) of killing each other, so guilt ridden (justifiably so) that they desire to be killed by outsiders.
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posted on
04/15/2004 4:58:37 PM PDT
by
Stentor
To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
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posted on
04/15/2004 5:01:09 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(America...thru dissent and protest lost the ability to mobilize a will to win, Col Bui Tin, PAVN)
To: Cicero
I think you might enjoy this article.
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posted on
04/15/2004 5:01:14 PM PDT
by
TopQuark
To: NovemberCharlie
pse·phol·o·gy
n.
The study of political elections.
[Greek psphos, pebble, ballot (from the ancient Greeks' use of pebbles for voting) + -logy.]
psephologist
n : a sociologist who studies election trends
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posted on
04/15/2004 5:02:32 PM PDT
by
The KG9 Kid
(Semper Fi)
To: NovemberCharlie
Steyn BUMP
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posted on
04/15/2004 5:08:02 PM PDT
by
spodefly
(I've decided not to include a tagline with this post.)
To: You Dirty Rats
If it makes you feel better - I DO remember Charlie's Angels, and I agree with your taste, then & now.
To: NovemberCharlie
Whether or not Madrid is Rome and Berlin and Amsterdam and Paris, it certainly isn't New York.
New York is starting to turn into Madrid.
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posted on
04/15/2004 5:09:12 PM PDT
by
motzman
(Remember Fabrizio Quattrocchi - Hero)
To: You Dirty Rats
I'm still madly in love with Jaclyn Smith.
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posted on
04/15/2004 5:10:38 PM PDT
by
axel f
To: NovemberCharlie
if we Europeans are resistant to ze idea of war, it is because we have seen so much of ze horrors of ze war. The reality is the other way round: the reason they've seen so much of the horrors of war is because they're so resistant to the idea of it - until it's too late and conflagration is all that's left.
The old saying, 'you attract what you fear'.
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posted on
04/15/2004 5:12:13 PM PDT
by
John Lenin
(Imagine there's no Liberals, It's easy if you try ...)
To: NovemberCharlie
Haven't seen Starsky & Hutch, nor will I - but I think the real point is that Americans believe in chasing down the bad guy & punishing him. Europeans believe in hoping the bad guy attacks their neighbor.
Altho the Italian who was recently murdered gives me hope that a few countries may still have a few men left...
To: NovemberCharlie
But, where will Europe go in the longer run? The Europeans are the ultimate classists. You belong to a certain class, are born to it, in fact, or you don't. The Muslims live here but they don't belong here. One of the characteristics of classism is that it is bivariate. They are easy to hate and, at some point, easy to fight.
The closest we come is black and white race. But, it is not no longer them and us. And, if fact, interracial marriage in the US takes place at a rate impossible for European and Muslims.
The European dichotomy will lead to bloodshed and as sensitive as the Europeans are to the changes in isms over the years, they have shed blood over differences in religion and will do it again.
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posted on
04/15/2004 5:15:13 PM PDT
by
Tacis
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