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Fatal plane crash mystery
Mobile Register ^
| 04/14/04
| joe danborn
Posted on 04/15/2004 1:30:45 AM PDT by My Dog Likes Me
Federal investigators have determined that a single-engine delivery plane that crashed into Big Bateau Bay on Oct. 23, 2002, slammed into something 3,000 feet above the Mobile-Tensaw Delta moments earlier - they're just not sure what it was.
The highly unusual NTSB account points to unidentified red marks on the severely damaged nose and front belly of the plane as evidence that it hit another object in the air...
(Excerpt) Read more at al.com ...
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: airplanecrash; aviation; callingartbell; mystery; narcap; ntsb; planecrash; ufo; xfiles
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To: blam
This is your neck o' the woods. I don't remember even hearing about this. Do you?
To: My Dog Likes Me
Off hand, I'd say a Big-ass Bird.
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posted on
04/15/2004 4:33:53 AM PDT
by
genefromjersey
(So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
To: MikeJ
Some sort of UAV is nontheless an obvious candidate.What is an "UAV"? Unmanned Aviation Vehicle?
23
posted on
04/15/2004 4:48:36 AM PDT
by
MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
(Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Unmanned Aerial Vehicle.
I think that a UAV drone is the leading candidate, though we don't seeem to have dealt a quiet, perhaps non-transponder-using "recreational" VFR entirely off the plate. If it was a government-related drone, his family needs to be compensated. Perhaps there are some recovered, confiscated drug funds somewhere.
Controller errors may translate to radar anomalies and all that needs to be checked out thoroughly.
It could be a long time before one finds whatever he hit resting in some secluded 8-foot deep area of the bayou.
It could be interesting to note who goes a-lookin' for their missing goods.
HF
24
posted on
04/15/2004 6:08:00 AM PDT
by
holden
To: Alas Babylon!
"This is your neck o' the woods. I don't remember even hearing about this. Do you? Yes, I read about it in the Mobile Register yesterday. It's a mystery. The only thing near was a FedEx jet and it was inspected and revealed no damage. I don't watch the local TV broadcasts so, I don't know the latest.
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posted on
04/15/2004 6:46:54 AM PDT
by
blam
To: leadpenny
any weather balloons in the area? weird, indeed.
Thanks for the ping.
26
posted on
04/15/2004 8:39:13 AM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
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To: My Dog Likes Me
bump
27
posted on
04/15/2004 8:43:43 AM PDT
by
VOA
To: My Dog Likes Me
HMMMMMMMMMMMM............Red stuff?????
Just don't know?
28
posted on
04/15/2004 8:57:28 AM PDT
by
Cold Heat
(Politicians are interested in people. Not that this is always a virtue. Fleas are interested in dogs)
To: MikeJ
Personally, I wouldn't expect much red paint on a US military UAV...Target drones are routinely painted red.
Protoypes are painted "ten mile orange" for the same reason black boxes are orange - it makes the easier to recover when something goes wrong...
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posted on
04/15/2004 9:11:21 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Vote for Kerry? Don't lead with your chin!!!)
To: wirestripper
Hmmmm. Red stuff? You mean like the red stuff on the seats of Flight 800?
30
posted on
04/15/2004 9:13:07 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Vote for Kerry? Don't lead with your chin!!!)
To: My Dog Likes Me
The Coast Guard has an air training base out of the mobile airport. They have red stripes on their planes and helos. (Actually international orange, but looks kinda red).
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posted on
04/15/2004 9:20:34 AM PDT
by
ampat
(to)
To: leadpenny
It was a UFO! The small plane collided with an alien spacecraft. The can be no other possible explanation.
"Ha! Foolish humans! Your small aircraft are no match for our superior technology."
32
posted on
04/15/2004 9:21:51 AM PDT
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,Election '04..It's going to be a bumpy ride,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø)
To: My Dog Likes Me
I lived near Spanish Fort from 1993 thru 95 & I once read in the newspaper that the Navy test fires cruise missiles from the Gulf which fly over that area & return to the Gulf.
33
posted on
04/15/2004 9:28:22 AM PDT
by
jrushing
(VRWC)
To: MikeJ
34
posted on
04/15/2004 9:32:44 AM PDT
by
New Perspective
(Proud father of a 4 month old son with Down Syndrome)
To: ampat
Having found the article dated October 23, 2002 I think the USCG would have realized they were missing an aircraft by now.
35
posted on
04/15/2004 9:33:55 AM PDT
by
ampat
(to)
To: jrushing
I find it hard to believe the Navy fires cruise missiles that fly over populated areas (except in Iraq). They usually "test" cruise missiles in desert areas.
36
posted on
04/15/2004 9:36:38 AM PDT
by
ampat
(to)
To: My Dog Likes Me
Very weird. Not being a pilot, I have a hard time understanding where on the plane the red "transfer" marks were found. Can someone give me a quick overview of their distribution? From what I can glean from the report, the marks are mainly on the left side but there is the "Top of right elevator adjacent to outboard hinge" marking. Any significance to the location of the markings?
The pilot's final transmission is "I needed to deviate...". Why the past tense? Is he asking permission to deviate from his flight plan because of the emergency?
37
posted on
04/15/2004 11:03:47 AM PDT
by
mikegi
To: My Dog Likes Me
How close is the crash site to Arkansas?
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To: mikegi
For what it's worth, a Cessna 208B is a high-winged, single-engined, fixed-gear turboprop that's used as a light cargo plane and small passenger hauler.
Here is a link to Cessna's site on the 208B so you can see what it looks like.
As for that transmission...all I could think of is that maybe as the guy was riding the plane down, his thumb jammed the transmit button down and that was his version of the "Oh God oh God oh God" sometimes heard on CVRs?
}:-)4
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posted on
04/15/2004 11:22:11 AM PDT
by
Moose4
(This is not a "war of ideas." It is a war of life and death.)
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