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Army Extends Tours Despite 1-Year Pledge
Yahoo News ^ | Wed, Apr 14, 2004 | ROBERT BURNS,

Posted on 04/14/2004 5:54:28 PM PDT by Kaslin

WASHINGTON - About 21,000 American soldiers in Iraq (news - web sites) who were to return this month to their home bases in Louisiana and Germany will have their tours extended at least three months to help combat the surge in anti-occupation violence, defense officials said Wednesday.

The decision, which has not been announced publicly, breaks the Army's promise to soldiers and their families that assignments in Iraq would be limited to 12 months. The affected soldiers already have been in Iraq for a year.

In addition, about 1,000 soldiers in transportation units based in Kuwait will be extended beyond one year, a senior defense official said. Most of them are in the National Guard or Reserve. They are deemed critical to re-supplying the troops based in Iraq.

Welcome-home ceremonies at Fort Polk, La., scheduled for this month, have been canceled. In Baumholder, Germany, some soldiers' families have stopped marking the days off the calendar.

The top U.S. commander for the Middle East, Gen. John Abizaid, decided that the increase in violence was so threatening that he needed to have the extra firepower, officials say.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld was fine-tuning the new plan Wednesday; his spokesmen declined to discuss details. They said it was possible that Rumsfeld would make it public on Thursday.

The tour extensions come at a particularly delicate moment. At least 87 troops have been killed in April, the deadliest month since they set foot in Iraq in March 2003. The number of wounded also has skyrocketed.

Of the estimated 21,000 soldiers affected by the extension in Iraq, about 18,000 are in the 1st Armored Division. About 2,800 are with the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment.

The advantage of keeping soldiers of the 1st Armored and the 2nd Armored Cavalry in Iraq for an extra three months — rather than bringing in an equivalent number from elsewhere — is that these soldiers have unmatched combat experience in Iraq.

The Army is so stretched by its commitments in Iraq, Afghanistan (news - web sites), the Balkans and elsewhere that it has few, if any, forces immediately available to substitute in Iraq for the 1st Armored or 2nd Armored Cavalry.

Also, these units have been heavily involved in one of the most important U.S. military missions there: training thousands of Iraqi security forces. Those Iraqi army and civil defense corps members are central to the Pentagon (news - web sites)'s plan for eventually turning over military control to the Iraqis and pulling out U.S. troops.

Abizaid had planned, as part of the current rotation of fresh forces into Iraq, to reduce the U.S. troop presence from about 135,000 to about 115,000.

But the surge this month in anti-occupation violence in restive areas in and around Baghdad and in the south has forced Abizaid to change course. He indicated on Tuesday that he needed more forces than originally planned. He would not tell reporters exactly how many or where he would get them.

Fort Polk, the Army base in Louisiana that is home to the 2nd Armored Cavalry, issued a news release last Thursday quoting the regiment's commander, Col. Bradley W. May, as saying "elements" of his unit "will remain in theater longer than initially announced."

He did not say how many soldiers were affected. A senior defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Wednesday it would be about 2,800.

The 2nd Squadron of the 2nd Armored Cavalry recently returned home to Louisiana, but the rest of the unit will remain in Iraq. May did not say how much longer his unit would remain in Iraq. Other defense officials said family members were told the soldiers probably would be back at Fort Polk in about four months. They likely will be in Iraq an extra three months, then take a month to redeploy.

These are not the first units to be extended in Iraq beyond one year. A brigade of the 82nd Airborne was extended by about three months

Rumsfeld has said he would grant any request that Abizaid made to adjust the level of his combat power. President Bush (news - web sites) said at a news conference Tuesday night that he was ready to provide as many extra troops as U.S. commanders on the ground say they need.

The 1st Armored and the 2nd Armored Cavalry are part of a contingent of about 135,000 U.S. soldiers who were being replaced this spring by a fresh group of soldiers and Marines. The 101st Airborne, the 4th Infantry Division and other units recently left Iraq, with the arrival of the 1st Infantry Division, a Stryker Brigade, the 1st Cavalry Division and the 1st Marine Division.

While surely disappointed that his troops must remain longer than planned, the commander of the 2nd Armored Cavalry has told them they should be ready to help finish the job.

"We are being called to end the fight against Muqtada Sadr's Mahdi Army and we will," May said, referring to the militia of the radical Shiite cleric who has incited violence against the U.S.-led occupation forces in southern cities including Najaf.

Still, the change of plans is bound to take a psychological toll. In a letter to his troops in January, May assured them that their time in Iraq was "fast approaching its conclusion."

In Baumholder, Germany, Matilda Adams and her two small children have stopped crossing the days off the calendar until the return of husband Sgt. Tory Adams, who had been due back this week.

"I was counting down and that hurt," said Adams, of Danville, Va. "I'm trying to go about it differently for the extension."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: army; fortpolk; genabizaid; germany; iraq; louisiana; rotation; troops
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To: xzins
I left active duty in 1976. The military has changed. A majority of the forces these days are already married
and have young families. This was not the case in my
period of duty.

These are professional Marines, Army, Navy people, not cannon fodder. If there was a shortage of people to fight this war, the war should have been delayed and the forces
were trained to complete the mission. Poor planning gets more people killed than bad ammo.

We are losing the war politically little by little. GWB
needs to Make some changes in DOD and the military hierarchy. November ain't that far away.
21 posted on 04/14/2004 7:39:23 PM PDT by dwilli
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To: xzins
Any comments?

Yes. While your service is admirable, your suggestion that the rest of us who haven't served are not "entitled" to an opinion is dispicable and quite frankly, unAmerican.

22 posted on 04/14/2004 7:40:20 PM PDT by Diverdogz
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To: Diverdogz
I didn't say anything to you. I was responding to a specific statement by dwilli. Did you look it up to see what it was?
23 posted on 04/14/2004 7:45:10 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: dwilli
Did I miss something, or is their a war on? Are these guys draftees, or volunteer professional military?

There were soldiers, sailors and Marines that left the states in 1940 and didn't come until until 1945.

They will bitch, piss, moan and cripe, and then kick the living dog snot out of the bastards responsible for keeping them there.

And on that point, O'Reilly had a reasonable Democrat on tonight, saying that the enemy timed their attacks to take place in the middle of the troop rotation. He thought that was a good idea. He's an idiot. 1) We have MORE troops there now as the result of the transition and 2) those that got extended are going to be really, really pissed off. The schmuck in Najaf is on the fast track to finding that out.
24 posted on 04/14/2004 7:45:16 PM PDT by IGOTMINE ("By God, I pity those poor bastards we're going up against. By God I do.")
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To: dwilli
We are not losing this war, and we will not lose this war.

The war is the war on terror. The Iraq campaign has greatly enhanced victory in that war for 2 reasons:

1. It has removed a staging base for the terrorists.
2. It has become an attraction for them to be in Iraq rather than elsewhere....like flies to the flypaper.
25 posted on 04/14/2004 7:48:02 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
Guess you should check out Drudges website and the photo he has front and center.
26 posted on 04/14/2004 7:50:13 PM PDT by dwilli
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To: xzins
"We are not losing this war, and we will not lose this war"
I'd agree with this statement, because there will be no end to the war. At least as long as we can borrow the money for it.

27 posted on 04/14/2004 7:50:18 PM PDT by Elkhound4
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To: dwilli
1. Considering that Drudge photo: "Is it logical to assume that drawing our force level down too low will make the number of deaths go up or go down?"

2. How many coffins were there on 9/11? Have we reached that number yet in Iraq? No.... Then we better get the bad guys with a sound strategy before they come back to randomly kill more in the homeland.
28 posted on 04/14/2004 7:56:47 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
There is no active duty soldier who is ever promised anything regarding assignments. Every soldier takes an oath to obey the orders of the officers appointed over....now that part is certain.

I'd like to see the army do a study on the retention rate of these soldiers. After broken promises many will decide that the Army doesn't love them as much as they love the Army.
29 posted on 04/14/2004 8:00:35 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Elkhound4
What would you do about the murder of 3000 on 9/11?
30 posted on 04/14/2004 8:00:54 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: Tailback
Right now retention rates of active duty soldiers is UP. It's a real wacko thing....they get psyched up, pumped up about doing something meaningful with their lives...things that will change the world.

The 82d Airborne has already MET its FY04 recruiting goal and they're only in the 3rd quarter and most of the year was spent overseas in Iraq fighting bad guys.

The NG might be a different story. They've got those anachronistic promotion rules that drag down the morale of their younger troops.
31 posted on 04/14/2004 8:04:59 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
I would determine who was responsible for 9/11 and I would go after them. I would try to finish that job before taking on something else (unless there was an imminent threat I had to react to).
32 posted on 04/14/2004 8:06:17 PM PDT by Elkhound4
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To: Elkhound4
Who was responsible for 9/11?

When you get them that would have to mean that another 9/11 couldn't happen again from that individual/group....right?

How would you get them? What's your plan?
33 posted on 04/14/2004 8:08:28 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
The National Guard and Reserve units are being used to fill billets they are not in shape, physical or training-wise, to fill. Many are older folks going from desk or management jobs to combat areas. They are beginning to
seem as they are considered fodder in a sense.

The Iraqi Invasion is not the heart-winning operation
it began as 12 months ago. That is true stateside or
combat zone.



34 posted on 04/14/2004 8:12:03 PM PDT by dwilli
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To: Tailback
I'd like to see the army do a study on the retention rate of these soldiers. After broken promises many will decide that the Army doesn't love them as much as they love the Army.

My husband was in the Navy for 9 years. His homecoming was often delayed a day or two for who knows what reason! Sometimes they were delayed by several days because some big wig wanted a ride on a submarine!

It happens, and the families live with this. If I could handle an extra week so some big shot congressperson could play onboard a submarine, these families will understand that we are at war and going through a particularly bad patch.

Overall, we do need more troops. Deployments are getting too long, and were being extended too long well before 911. That overall situation certainly contributes to retention. But this particular situation is so important, that I think the families and the servicepeople understand and will suck it up.

35 posted on 04/14/2004 8:14:06 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Alas Babylon!
bump
36 posted on 04/14/2004 8:15:26 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Dianna
My husband was in the Navy for 9 years. His homecoming was often delayed a day or two for who knows what reason! Sometimes they were delayed by several days because some big wig wanted a ride on a submarine!

Having your 1 year deployment in a war zone extended by 25 percent just might be a little different than a ship tying up in its home port a day or so late.

37 posted on 04/14/2004 8:18:30 PM PDT by dwilli
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To: dwilli
My son is over there, and he is NG, and he is in great shape....and proud to be there yet missing his wife and soon-to-be child.

They were not sent over until they had gone through extensive train-ups.

Also, those who sacrificed their lives for their country this past month were not NG.
38 posted on 04/14/2004 8:23:48 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: dwilli
Guess you should check out Drudges website and the photo he has front and center.

What... losing your resolve after taking some casualties? Is that what it's about?

I guess you think the U.S. has a glass jaw and we're unwilling to deal with death when it hits home. This of course, is exactly what our enemy is counting on.

I've got news for you, sport... this ain't Somalia. We aren't running away this time, much as you would like to.

Go ahead and vote for Kerry. Maybe you'll win. Then when he turns tail and runs from what he should do... and Iraq devolves into civil war, and Iran comes across the border, and Turkey... and then Pakistan falls to extremists... and then the new extremist Arabia turns to attack Israel in force and they have no choice but to go nuclear... yes... that will all be better for you, right?

39 posted on 04/14/2004 8:26:56 PM PDT by Ramius ([...sip...])
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To: dwilli
Can you point me to the place in the contract where deployments are limited to one year?
40 posted on 04/14/2004 8:28:37 PM PDT by Ramius ([...sip...])
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