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So what's wrong with clubbing seals?
The Telegraph ^ | 15/04/2004 | Boris Johnson

Posted on 04/14/2004 5:21:14 PM PDT by Eurotwit

I don’t know who handles the PR for these Canadian seal-clubbers, but it must be a hell of a job. Can there be any group, on the entire planet, that so excites the hatred of the British public? Not the Korean dog-eaters, nor the Italian butterfly-shooters, nor the Spanish goat-headyankers — no, not even the French, who, as we all know, eat our children’s ponies — no one can match the Canadian fisherman for provoking the Briton to tears of rage; and one can see why.

Here is a fellow who rises and puts on his great big waterproof boots and his great big waterproof hat. Then he picks up a horrible knobkerrie, studded with nails, gives his wife a loving kiss, and strides on to ice floes where he sets about him with a terrible Hutu-style slaughter. Bonk bash bonk he goes, like some demented axeman, and nothing will stop him. The telephoto lenses of the RSPCA cameras whirr and click.

Above him hover the helicopters chartered by the BBC, while live pictures of the horror are beamed into every living-room in this country. Does he care?

Does he hell. And it is not just any old beast that he brains, but a mammal, a creature like us that suckles its young; and it is a large, defenceless mammal, with both eyes in the front of its head, in that cute anthropomorphic way. It is a furry mammal, with a bark as winsome as any leal and faithful labrador.

One after another, biff thunk clunk, the Canadians are now beating these trusting little critters to death, thousands of them a day, until the snow runs red in that awful way we saw on the front of yesterday’s Independent newspaper.

Is there anyone who could possibly attempt to justify this kind of barbarity? Will anyone stand up for the seal cull? Well, ahem, at the risk of terminally alienating and offending animal-lovers across the country, it is the duty of this column — which ever puts logic above popularity — to have a go.

Of course, it must be a dreadful way to go, if you are a seal; and no one could seriously doubt that the method of killing is peculiarly brutal. But I put it to you none the less that the Canadian fisherman has as much right to go out clubbing as the average British 18-year-old.

It was a good thing that there was an outcry in the early 1980s; and it was a good thing that there was a consequent European Union-wide ban on seal fur products. But that was when the cull had so reduced the populations of harp and hooded seals that they were at real risk. That was when they killed the little white baby seals as well, which particularly outraged our sentimental feelings. The truth today is that there are now about six million of these seals, and they are not spending all the time lolling defencelessly on the ice. They are very efficient eaters of fish.

They eat 1.5 tonnes of fish a year each, and given that there are only 50,000 tonnes of cod left off Newfoundland and Labrador, you can see that the ecosystem is badly out of whack.

It is true that the waters have been crazily overfished by the Canadians themselves; but there seems to be good evidence that the voracity of the seals has created a predator trap, by which the fish find it impossible to breed faster than the seals can eat them. You could find what looks like a more humane way of bumping off the seals, such as shooting them. The trouble is that this method is barely more humane than clubbing, and the gunshot lead is expensive and not environmentally friendly.

And surely it makes sense, given how poor these fishermen are, to prevent the pelts from being torn apart by bullets. You may feel affronted by the scale of the slaughter; but I can’t really see a moral difference between authorising the killing of 10,000 seals and 350,000.

If it is really numbers of dead animals that shock you, let me remind you that every year we herd 1.5 million cows and 12.5 million sheep into the dark bellowing terror of dung-encrusted abattoirs, blap them with a bolt in the brain and then slit their throats. We don’t have Canadian camera crews hovering above our meat processing plants.

And if it is not numbers that concern you, but the principle of taking life, then let me remind you that 200,000 embryos are aborted every year in this country; and if you think that is irrelevant, let me remind you that, every year, in the People’s Republic of China, 20,000 sentient adult human beings are killed by the state. Isn’t that, on the face of it, a more natural subject for an Independent campaign?

I tell you why the seal cull speaks so powerfully to us. It’s telly, innit? It’s the shocking undisguisable picture of the lone killer on the ice floe, the graphic impact of the red on the white.

The seal cull provides a uniquely powerful image of what is in fact an everyday event: the violence of man against animals, and the slaughter of animals by man. It is the sheer conspicuousness of that killing that prompts, in our breasts, our exaggerated response: which I might compare, finally, with the agonies now being endured by those of us who supported the war in Iraq.

It looks like an utter disaster, if you rely solely on the television images, and you study the small-scale newspaper maps, with their pictograms of conflagration in every city. This week in The Spectator, we have a brilliant piece by Andrew Gilligan in Baghdad, full of despair at the dilemmas of the coalition troops.

Maybe I am a congenital optimist, but I can’t help wondering whether that is all there is to it, and whether those polls — which found so many Iraqis convinced that their lives had improved — were not also true. Television images of violence can create alarm. They can create outrage. But they are not always the whole story.

Boris Johnson is MP for Henley and editor of The Spectator


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: animalrights; canuckistan; fur; hunting; seals
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To: skepsel
This work is done by Newfoundlanders. They're pretty far north by most people's standards, but not in the far north. These people have traditionally made a living from the sea, fishing and sealing. Newfoundland has little industry, it's not suitable for farming, and employment prospects for many are dim. They've been in really hard shape since the northen cod moratorium went into effect, over 10 years ago now, as that was the major fishery there. They are most definitely not doing this for fun or for sport.
181 posted on 04/15/2004 1:12:24 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: feinswinesuksass
They don't brutalize it, they kill it. Killing things is not pretty. Do you feel the same way about lambs? They're pretty cute and adorable.
182 posted on 04/15/2004 1:13:29 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: rintense
So she was probably instrumental for making people club seals instead of shooting them. Clubbing is considered WAY more humane. A shot seal will often quickly go under the ice and slowly smother itself.
183 posted on 04/15/2004 1:19:12 PM PDT by NathanR (California Si! Aztlan NO!)
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To: Eurotwit
Cheers comrade.

Uff'da.

184 posted on 04/15/2004 1:22:15 PM PDT by elbucko (I'm not a real SOB, but I play one on FreeRepublic.)
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To: NathanR
Seriously doubt that. The focus of the bill back then was farm animals.
185 posted on 04/15/2004 1:23:37 PM PDT by rintense (Now I know why liberals hate guns... they keep shooting themselves in the foot!)
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To: -YYZ-
Are lambs clubbed in the head?
This behavior cannot be justified no matter how hard you try. And why would you want to defend those actions? Are you Mark Geragos?
186 posted on 04/15/2004 1:25:52 PM PDT by Feiny (They Will Fear Us, We Will Prevail)
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To: feinswinesuksass
I have no idea who that is, and I don't care. Do you know for a fact that clubbing seal pups in the head is inhumane? I'll admit that it looks pretty brutal, but then killing usually does.

Are you saying that this would be OK with you if the seals were killed in a manner that you consider humane?
187 posted on 04/15/2004 1:37:11 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: rintense
My point, was that clubbing is considered a humane way to kill seals, which was worked out between people like your great aunt and the seal hunters. It is not considered cruel, except by people who romanticize Nature.

Then NGOs like Greenpeace found that they were extremely 'Cute' and used their bloody images to influence clueless urban fools to give them money.

People who gave no thought to where their shoe leather, steaks, lamb chops and so on actually came from.

At least Vegans are consistent now.
188 posted on 04/15/2004 1:38:27 PM PDT by NathanR (California Si! Aztlan NO!)
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To: feinswinesuksass
Are lambs clubbed in the head?

Probably.

Clubbing (stunning) then slitting the throat is considered more humane than simply slitting the throat.

189 posted on 04/15/2004 1:42:35 PM PDT by NathanR (California Si! Aztlan NO!)
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To: elbucko
Uff'da indeed.

I just did some research and discovered that Norway actually imports seal pelts from Canada.

Apparently we are not killing enough seals on our own to meet the demand.

190 posted on 04/15/2004 2:07:45 PM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: -YYZ-
Mark Geragos is a slimebag attorney who will defend anyone with money. You seem content to defend this behavior for free. I guess that just makes you cheap.....and cruel.
191 posted on 04/15/2004 2:09:09 PM PDT by Feiny (They Will Fear Us, We Will Prevail)
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To: Eurotwit
Apparently we are not killing enough seals on our own to meet the demand.

See. Socialism and free Bubble-up are making you soft. Time to go back to the Long Boats.

192 posted on 04/15/2004 2:16:12 PM PDT by elbucko (I'm not a real SOB, but I play one on FreeRepublic.)
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To: -YYZ-
Nope, not saying it would be OK to "humanely kill" the pups as the only reason for killing them in the first place is for their pelts (and seal penis for the Chinese market).

I am also a big fan of the shark so more seals mean more food for the shark. Nature has a way of working things out on her own. Sometimes when Man gets involved with the cycle, we help out (like with thinning the deer population to keep them from starving to death) other times....we screw it all up (like clubbing baby seals).
193 posted on 04/15/2004 2:16:15 PM PDT by Feiny (They Will Fear Us, We Will Prevail)
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To: rintense; Long Cut
"The fate of a civilization can be determined by its treatment of animals.

Funny that the Chinese came up with that one. They are one of the worst offenders of animal cruelty.

Yes, and look at their history and their position in the world today. They are still not considered "First World". China still treats human beings as cattle.

As I watched the "Passion" for the second time with my daughter, I was once again a surrogate witness to the gratuitous brutality that man is capable of doing to other men. We all saw it on Sept. 11th. The excuses of the terrorists were all the same, lame, reasons that have been posted to excuse the gratuitous brutality to the seals, to slavery, to the Jews, to the American Patriots by the British. The reason is never a moral justification, but the nihilism of Nietzsche; the seals are beaten and skinned, because the men can. Blacks were made slaves, because other men could enslave them, Jews murdered, because the Nazi's could murder them. Christ crucified because the Romans could do it.

How one treats those that are weak and innocent is a measure of their own humanity and their own personal courage and intellect. It is very easy to go with the crowd and encourage the seal hunt. It was just as easy for Arabs to cheer the images of 9/11. No, seals are not on the level of human beings, that's not what offends the sensibilities. What is offensive is its gratuity and its scale. It is unjustifiable mass killing that demeans the humans that take part in it. It's what it does to the soul. These same men could bludgeon human beings and justify their acts as necessary.

194 posted on 04/15/2004 2:19:05 PM PDT by elbucko (I'm not a real SOB, but I play one on FreeRepublic.)
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To: feinswinesuksass
And I guess I could say your irrational opposition to this harvest of natural resources makes you stupid, but I generally don't resort to name calling on this board.

I don't actually care for the hunt (or any hunting) all that much myself, but unless there is proven undue cruelty (which there isn't, as far as I'm concerned) or a serious risk to their populations (just the opposite, from what I understand), I can't see why it shouldn't be done.
195 posted on 04/15/2004 3:21:34 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: -YYZ-
You don't consider that undue cruelty?
We have nothing further to discuss.
196 posted on 04/15/2004 5:12:51 PM PDT by Feiny (They Will Fear Us, We Will Prevail)
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To: elbucko
Excellent post.
197 posted on 04/16/2004 3:51:40 AM PDT by rintense (Now I know why liberals hate guns... they keep shooting themselves in the foot!)
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To: NathanR
I'm sorry, but I disagree with you. Show me documentation- objective documentation- that clubbing seals is humane. If it were so humane, then why do we not do the same to farm animals? Why do we not do the same when euthanizing domestic animals like dogs and cats? You won't find one vet anywhere that would condone such actions and call it humane.
198 posted on 04/16/2004 3:54:25 AM PDT by rintense (Now I know why liberals hate guns... they keep shooting themselves in the foot!)
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To: rintense
I am apparently wrong. I thought that cows were stunned by a large hammer before slaughter, but apparently they use something like the "Humane Killer" used by knackers.
The below article goes into it quite well.

http://www.vetcentric.com/magazine/magazineArticle.cfm?ARTICLEID=1511

However, clubbing seals is still more humane than other methods, including shooting them with a rifle. (Since rifles often hit, yet only wound.)
199 posted on 04/16/2004 9:04:23 AM PDT by NathanR (California Si! Aztlan NO!)
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