Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Live 9/11 Commission Thread
April 14, 2004 | Vanity

Posted on 04/14/2004 6:24:26 AM PDT by Peach

George Tenet, CIA Director, is due to testify to the 9/11 Commission.

Later today the FBI Director, Meuller, will testify.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911commission; commission; meuller; tenet; tenettestimony
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 621-640641-660661-680 ... 781-794 next last
To: Jrabbit
Well, I have a few questions for the Jersey Girls. I think we should have our own commission.
641 posted on 04/14/2004 12:26:34 PM PDT by Miss Marple
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 639 | View Replies]

To: Howlin
Ashcroft made it very clear that he flew on federal planes when traveling on federal business...and public transportation all other times.

He did not "lease a private plane".

And..btw...why do family members get to ask questions?! What is this...a segment of the Ophrah show?
642 posted on 04/14/2004 12:27:10 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 631 | View Replies]

To: Jrabbit
They are completely hung up on that plane that Ashcroft traveled on, even though it was answered fully yesterday by Ashcroft himself.

They seem to believe that the government was expecting something that day and they even said that the Pentagon canceled all their scheduled flights.

I'm assuming that nobody told George and Barbara Bush and Barbara Olsen that day, eh?
643 posted on 04/14/2004 12:27:23 PM PDT by Howlin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 639 | View Replies]

To: LisaFab
What bothers me more is that they haven't set up a (better) system to crack data in PGP encryption. This is where the terrorists have us by the bytes.
644 posted on 04/14/2004 12:28:03 PM PDT by debg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 630 | View Replies]

To: Miss Marple
I agree. You're the chairwoman. When do we meet?
645 posted on 04/14/2004 12:28:03 PM PDT by Jrabbit
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 641 | View Replies]

To: NautiNurse
With so many former Senators and Cogressmen(womenO how is it Roemer was chosen? Beside the fact that he's a nasty so-and-so.
646 posted on 04/14/2004 12:28:15 PM PDT by surrey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 635 | View Replies]

To: Right_in_Virginia
Haven't you heard? Chris Matthews said that the ONLY reason we're even having this hearing is becasue of the Jersey Widows!

Heck, they even tried to get Kristen on that panel when Max Cleland stepped down. Imagine what that would be like!
647 posted on 04/14/2004 12:28:41 PM PDT by Howlin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 642 | View Replies]

To: Howlin
It was great to do that publicly, but it won't do any good; I know for a fact that Kristen Breistwhateveritis has had that report in her hands for at least 3 days. I've seen some of her responses about it. She doesn't care.

Howlin, just to correct the record on our (FR) Kristinn's behalf...

The "Gore 1996 Airline Commission report" that Kristinn delivered to people at the hearings this morning is not the official report from that Commission; rather, it is one that was co-written by a DC Chapter member a couple of years ago.

This report wasn't in anyone's hands until its delivery by Kristinn this morning.

Here is the text of the report that Kristinn made copies of and handed out this morning...

The Gore Airline Commission

In July of 1996, in the wake of the crash of TWA flight 800, President Bill Clinton created the White House Commission on Aviation Safety and Security by executive order 13015 to convene on August 22, 1996. He gave the commission 45 days to, “study matters involving aviation safety and security, including air traffic control and to develop a strategy to improve aviation safety and security, both domestically and internationally,” then present their conclusions. He named Vice President Al Gore to head the commission. By special invitation of the President, Victoria Cummock was named to the commission. Ms. Cummock lost her husband in the explosion of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, some eight years prior. According to Newsday, Ms. Cummock held the reputation at the time of being “the airlines’ most tenacious foe.”

Five years prior to September 11, 2001, Gore held a press conference to announce the commission’s preliminary report that promised, “to take the strongest measures possible to reduce the risk of terrorism and sabotage to airline passengers and crews.” Gore further stated that their upcoming proposed measures will, “be put into place quickly and effectively and will help ensure that airline travel remains as safe as possible for all travelers.” A solid and factual preliminary report backed up Gore’s comments.

Ten days later, just prior to the 1996 election, Gore penned a letter to airline lobbyist Carol Hallett, promising that the commission's findings would not cause the airlines any loss of revenue. The very next day the Democratic National Committee received a check in the amount of $40,000 from TWA. Over the next two weeks Northwest, United and American Airlines donated $55,000 more.

In the next two months the Democratic National Committee pocketed over $250,000 from American Airlines. United Airlines threw in an additional $100,000. Northwest Airlines added $53,000. That’s a grand total of over half a million dollars. According to the Washington Times, Whitehouse Spokesman, Ginny Terzano offered no denial when asked whether Al Gore solicited these airline donations personally.

Contributory advice and suggestions were being sought and incorporated into the draft(s) of the report by all sides of the aisle and divisions of government including intelligence agencies, transportation agencies and military personnel. The draft final form was presented to the 21 participating commissioners in January of 1997. According to the Washington Times, a significant number of security measures were removed from the proposed final draft of the report.

Victoria Cummock and CIA Director John Deutch were resolute in their opposition to the “softball” report. Gore was given no choice but to pull back the report. Reinstalled were sensible new procedures that would cost the airlines millions of dollars.

• Conduct airport vulnerability assessments and develop action plans

• Require criminal background checks and FBI fingerprint checks for all screeners, and all airport and airline employees with access to secure areas

• Deploy existing technology

• Significantly expand the use of bomb-sniffing dogs

• Complement technology with automated passenger profiling

• Certify screening companies and improve screener performance

• Aggressively test existing security systems

• Use the Customs Service to enhance security

• Give properly cleared airline and airport security personnel access to the classified information they need to know

• Begin implementation of full bag-passenger match

• Providing more compassionate and effective assistance to families of victims

• Improve passenger manifests

• Significantly increase the number of FBI agents assigned to counter-terrorism investigations, to improve intelligence and crisis response

• Provide anti-terrorism assistance in the form of airport security training to countries where there are airports served by airlines flying to the US

The security measures were in the final recommendation report. However, the implementation timetable was nowhere to be found.

In February of 1997, Victoria Cummock called the report “toothless.” She informed Gore that unless specific implementation dates were added in the report she would file a dissent, because the airline industry would not have to comply unless such measures were mandated.

On February 12, 1997, an open meeting was held on the commission’s final report. Gore made a point to inform Ms. Cummock that he would leave room for her dissent to the final report. NBC Dateline filmed Mr. Gore presenting the final report to President Clinton minutes later and pronouncing that the report had unanimous consent. But it didn’t.

Victoria Cummock filed suit claiming that Gore pressured her to abandon her call for counter-terrorist measures, the right to see commission files of which she was denied, and the right to file her 42-page dissent. It was her ambition to see the commission’s findings presented accurately within the final report.

Gore tried to paint Ms. Cummock, who had lost her husband in a terrorist act, as a disgruntled commissioner. In the long, drawn out and impeded discovery process, a memo was discovered from a CIA staffer who specialized in psychological profiling. According to The American Spectator, the memo stated that Cummock could be, "kept in line if she believes progress could be made" but "could become a major problem."

The Gore Commission’s final report was nothing more than playing politics for campaign contributions while intentionally ignoring obvious safety and security voids in an industry that had been a target of terrorists for over thirty years.

In mid-1999, Ms. Cummock won her case in the D.C. Court of Appeals.

Note: Kristinn added this one line to the report...

After the terrorist attacks of September 11, most if not all of the commission's recommendations were finally implemented.

648 posted on 04/14/2004 12:29:37 PM PDT by tgslTakoma (Still waiting for my paycheck from Mr. Scaife...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 378 | View Replies]

To: Howlin
No, I didn't know that..(don't watch Miss Chrissy).

Their questions are an outrage.
649 posted on 04/14/2004 12:30:16 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 647 | View Replies]

To: Right_in_Virginia
If I'm not mistaken, I believe the SS recommended it because of all the guns they carry!
650 posted on 04/14/2004 12:30:18 PM PDT by Howlin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 642 | View Replies]

To: NautiNurse; OldFriend
LOL! Love your tagline Nauti.

OF, I read your post regarding your anger over 9/11. We here in the NY tri-state have a more intimate recollection of that day as do those in DC and PA. This is not to infer that ALL of the country was not attacked that day of course.

651 posted on 04/14/2004 12:30:34 PM PDT by LisaFab
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 635 | View Replies]

To: TomGuy
It was answered yesterday by Ashcroft when Ben-Veniste asked it.

I'm done. This is akin to a bad off-Broadway play that I wouldn't pay $5 to watch.
652 posted on 04/14/2004 12:30:45 PM PDT by mabelkitty (A tuning, a Vote in the topic package to the starting US presidency election fight)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 634 | View Replies]

To: tgslTakoma
I understand that; but I know for a fact that she has the final copy of Gore's commission statement and she doesn't care.
653 posted on 04/14/2004 12:31:17 PM PDT by Howlin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 648 | View Replies]

To: Jrabbit; Howlin; OldFriend; Pukin Dog; Carolinamom; Right_in_Virginia
I hereby appoint Old Friend, Howlin, Pukin Dog, Carolinamom, and Right_in_Virginia to my commission, as well as you.

Anyone else who wants to join should contact me. I think we should start investigating their past history and their political contacts. Something tells me they are not simply "grieving widows." Dorothy Rabinowitz would not have been so caustic in her op-ed were in not so.

654 posted on 04/14/2004 12:31:53 PM PDT by Miss Marple
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 645 | View Replies]

To: Quilla
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.
655 posted on 04/14/2004 12:32:02 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 617 | View Replies]

To: BlessedByLiberty; Miss Marple
Gore invented the internet, but just couldn't bring himself to share the technology with the FBI?
656 posted on 04/14/2004 12:32:16 PM PDT by mabelkitty (A tuning, a Vote in the topic package to the starting US presidency election fight)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 637 | View Replies]

To: Howlin
This is the first day I'm watching this live. I'm just shaking my head. What a travesty.
657 posted on 04/14/2004 12:32:31 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 650 | View Replies]

To: Miss Marple
I don't get this either because in most of the Patricia Cornwell Scarpetta novels written during the 1990s, Scarpetta's niece is busy fixing the FBI's databases and what-not. Shouldn't they be working by now?????? :)
658 posted on 04/14/2004 12:32:54 PM PDT by petitfour
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 625 | View Replies]

To: Right_in_Virginia
It takes some getting use to; kind of like picking up a hot horseshoe.
659 posted on 04/14/2004 12:33:06 PM PDT by Howlin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 657 | View Replies]

To: petitfour
LOL........but I think she's moved on to NYC now, hasn't she?
660 posted on 04/14/2004 12:34:30 PM PDT by Howlin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 658 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 621-640641-660661-680 ... 781-794 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson