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To: djf; Ronzo; betty boop; marron
Thank you so much for your fascinating essay and testimonial!

It has been a difficult journey for me to deanthropomorhize God.

I think you have your hand on the door knob.

But as long as anyone is characterizing God by his own thinking, he is creating a god of his own imaginings. That is why the following statement you made rings true to me whenever man’s doctrines and traditions (as opposed to the living Word) refute science:

Religion, being confronted by science, seems to be slowwly fading to the background, and almost becoming nonsensical.

Conversely, spiritual thirst is increasing among the “non-aligned” and the Bible centric. For evidence I point to the eerie success of movies dealing squarely with issues of good v evil – The Passion of the Christ, of course but also the Lord of the Rings trilogy and many others. The same is true of popular television programs, the good confronting evil and winning the battle.

I share your interest in ancient manuscripts and am particularly drawn to Charlesworth’s collection. I read all of it as literature unless the Spirit within brings something to my attention, which He has with regard to Abraham's reason for leaving his father and much of the book of Enoch. Which brings me back to the door knob.

It has been a difficult journey for me to deanthropomorhize God.

The door knob is turned when we surrender to God and specifically ask for and receive His indwelling Spirit. He is alive and whereas the Scriptures reveal Him truly, they do not reveal Him fully. He reveals Himself directly, personally, organically - as He wills. We cannot mentally grasp Him - as you have said.

You might be interested in in this short thread for more.

468 posted on 05/07/2004 10:43:24 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
I think that Darwinism and Newtonian thought created a somewhat awkward time for people. That was why I emphasized the seeming clash between science and religion.

But, IMHO, no such clash actually exists. As you so rightly pointed out in an earlier post, Bell's ideas have opened up entire new vistas of thought about time and space and connectivity.

The collapse of locality, spatial and temporal, at least allows us to see a much bigger picture of cause and effect. By it's very nature, we are potentially thrust into being more an intrinsic part of things than we ever could have thought possible in the past.

And these new vistas of science and QM, Wheelers multiple universe theories,(which I reject), etc. start to give us a tiny glance, as if we were looking through a peephole, at the magnificence and utter hugeness of what's out there.

I find a deep spiritual beauty in the following:

Part 1: Matter organizes itself into living beings
Part 2: Living beings aspire to attain spiritual elegance, meaning, and purpose


But I have to admit, often, in the middle of the night, alone and deep in thought and memories of my life, I kinda wish that He would just knock on my door, come in and have a cup of coffee with me, and chat for awhile.

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474 posted on 05/07/2004 11:18:40 AM PDT by djf
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