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Woman kills attacker (Detroit)
Detroit Free Press ^ | April 14, 2004 | Cecil Angel

Posted on 04/14/2004 5:27:24 AM PDT by Gun142

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:13:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A woman shot an armed man to death Tuesday after he attacked her as she was entering her east-side Detroit home, police said.

The woman, who owns a car dealership, was at the side door of her home in the 15200 block of Troester at 7:45 p.m. when a man ran up behind her brandishing a nickel-plated handgun, Officer Derek Jones said.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; ccw; justice; selfdefense
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To: Gun142
Another one bites the dust!
21 posted on 04/14/2004 6:10:10 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Chief Engineer, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemens' Club)
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To: Gun142
Bump
22 posted on 04/14/2004 6:19:24 AM PDT by trussell (Member: Viking Kitty Society; Charter member: Troll Patrol...)
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To: HankReardon
The gun was loaded and being carried in her purse? Is this legal in Detroit?

She does have a CCW permit but you never know in the bigger (usually liberal) cities.
23 posted on 04/14/2004 6:20:36 AM PDT by Gun142 (Where Will You Be When You Get Where You're Going? -- Jerry Clower)
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To: cynicom
One does have to wonder though, why do the police carry guns?

Maybe they're 'loaners' in case a perp loses his own.

24 posted on 04/14/2004 6:21:07 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: Gun142
This is the second Detroit woman with a CCW who was saved by her own gun.

The other one was posted here on FR. The woman was going up to an ATM when a man with a gun approached her. She pulled her gun and them man fled.

YOU GO GIRLS!
25 posted on 04/14/2004 6:22:23 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: ClearCase_guy
Once your brother becomes the victom of crime such as robbery, burglary, carjacking, etc.....He may change his mind.
26 posted on 04/14/2004 6:25:52 AM PDT by BUCKSBUD
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To: Gun142
I wonder if UofM Student Lauren Flynn has read this article?
27 posted on 04/14/2004 6:28:04 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that does not trust you with guns?)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN; ClearCase_guy
A good friend of mine often says that there's one in every family, and if you don't know who it is in your family, it might be you.
28 posted on 04/14/2004 6:30:34 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that does not trust you with guns?)
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To: cynicom
Dear Cynicom,

The perp in this case wanted to first rape, then kill this women, then steal her valuables. Most people find it difficult to call 911 when they are dead.

This women, and in fact all Americans have the established right to life and liberty, rights that this man was attempting to deny through use of illegal force. Since it is not possible for the police to be in every home, citizens have the legal right to defend themselves. This is why my state (Michigan) not only upholds the second amendment, but goes the extra step in allowing citizens the right to carry concealed weapons.

In those states where gun ownership is restricted crime increases substantially. In those areas where gun ownership is allowed, crime goes down substantially.

Why should this women, or any person allow themselves to be an "ordinary citizen" when in this case ordinary would also mean beaten, raped and dead?
29 posted on 04/14/2004 7:06:10 AM PDT by Dukata
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To: Gun142
Detroit police said citywide, at least eight people were shot in less than four hours Tuesday night. At least four of them were killed in the incidents which included a carjacking and an incident police said was drug related.

[completing the sentence] ... ,and thanks to this woman's gun ownership, at least one of those shootings didn't have an innocent victim.

30 posted on 04/14/2004 7:17:05 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Dukata
The perp in this case wanted to first rape, then kill this women

Knowing how things are these days, maybe not even in that order.

31 posted on 04/14/2004 7:17:52 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Dan from Michigan
I want to thank you for your efforts in passing the CCW law in Michigan. You are personally responsible for helping to save this woman's life.

Again, thank you.
32 posted on 04/14/2004 8:07:49 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Thankfully, my brother is very right thinking. However, if he woke up one day chanting guns are bad, he would not be welcome at my house.
33 posted on 04/14/2004 8:25:06 AM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: Gun142
Cue the music. I love a happy ending!
34 posted on 04/14/2004 8:27:47 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• © • ™ • ® •)
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To: HankReardon
The carry law was passed in 2001. Dan from Michigan was part of the fight to pass it. Freepers have been actively involved in passing CCW laws for the last four years that I know of. We have had the live feeds from the legislative floors right here on FR.

Right now, the Kansas CCW bill has been passed by both houses and sent to the Governor. She has vowed to veto it in spite of calls in our favor by 3-1.

Contact the Governor Office of the Governor Capitol, 300 SW 10th Ave., Ste. 212S Topeka, KS 66612-1590

Email the governor...governor@state.ks.us

Governor's Office of Constituent Services Toll-Free 1-877-579-6757

Local 785-296-6240

Fax 785-368-8788
35 posted on 04/14/2004 8:36:41 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: Gun142
"He said, 'I got you,"' Jones said.

She tried to shut her screen door, but he pulled it open and began shoving her into the house, police said. As they struggled, she pulled a handgun from her purse and fired about five shots, Jones said.

Important lesson for criminals:

Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you!

36 posted on 04/14/2004 8:48:10 AM PDT by Panzerfaust
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To: Gun142; All
Expected veto of concealed gun bill won't face override try, sponsor says
By Bill Draper - Associated Press Writer

Wednesday, April 14, 2004

Topeka — A House sponsor of concealed-handguns legislation that has been sent to the governor says there will be no attempt to override an expected veto of the measure.

Rep. L. Candy Ruff said Tuesday there are not enough votes to override Gov. Kathleen Sebelius' threatened veto, so there's no reason to try.

"We'll wait until next year and bring it back," said Ruff, D-Leavenworth. "This is the type of issue that doesn't go away, because it's that important. Forty-six states have already passed this legislation, so it's not unusual, odd or weird."

The House approved its version of the bill on a 78-45 vote -- six favorable votes short of the 84 needed to override a veto. The House would get first shot at overriding a veto, since the bill originated in that chamber.

Sebelius spokeswoman Nicole Corcoran said the governor has been very clear that she would support legislation allowing retired law enforcement officers -- but no one else -- to carry concealed handguns. The current bill "is not something the governor will support," Corcoran said Tuesday.

Under Kansas law, Sebelius has 10 days to act on a bill once it has reached her desk or it automatically becomes law without her signature. Sebelius' deadline on the concealed-carry bill is Friday, the same day the 2004 Governor's Annual One-Shot Turkey Hunt begins in El Dorado.

The bill on the governor's desk would require the attorney general's office to issue a concealed-carry permit to any Kansan 21 or older who is a U.S. citizen, pays a $150 application fee, has no mental illness or drug or alcohol addiction and completes eight hours of training.

The legislation prohibits concealed handguns in several locations but would allow them in the Statehouse, school parking lots and restaurants that serve alcohol.

Ruff said the fate of concealed-carry next year could depend on who gets elected to the Legislature this November and how strongly supporters feel about passing the measure -- even if it means Democrats having to oppose their Democratic governor.

"I do think that on this issue Democrats have got to realize there are some things you've got to stand up for," Ruff said. "You have to stand up and say despite everything else, ma'am, you're not right on this issue."
37 posted on 04/14/2004 9:02:50 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: Peter J. Huss
"In Detroit, she will still be treated like the criminal. I predict tens of thousands in lawyer fees and eventual bankruptcy."

Depends>
She'll be OK if she's black.

38 posted on 04/14/2004 9:43:41 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Gun142
I looked it where on a map this was. Not far from Gratiot St. Gratiot is rough by Detroit standards.

And a big reason for CPL's.

39 posted on 04/14/2004 10:57:17 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("...and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take...OUR FREEDOM")
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To: nuconvert
No "Make my day" law there?

Depends on the prosecutor.

40 posted on 04/14/2004 10:58:17 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("...and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take...OUR FREEDOM")
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