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President Bush News Conference---Live Thread
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| April 13 2004
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Posted on 04/13/2004 4:04:13 PM PDT by Dog
This will be tonights live thread..
TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atrw; bush; kickedss
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To: nopardons
Oh I don't mind him posting it. He has been using this "terminally" ill scam for 3 nights and I didn't feel comfortable confronting him in public until I knew for sure. Now I know...it is a scam.
2,541
posted on
04/13/2004 10:33:42 PM PDT
by
Texasforever
(God Bless And Keep Our Troops)
To: Greg Weston
Squawk!!!...Drunk Neo-CONS
Squawk!!!...Drunk Neo-CONS
Squawk!!!...Drunk Neo-CONS
2,542
posted on
04/13/2004 10:35:13 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(I'm not always cranky.)
To: Greg Weston
Who peed in your Kool-Aide?
2,543
posted on
04/13/2004 10:35:22 PM PDT
by
Texasforever
(God Bless And Keep Our Troops)
To: Texasforever
Myself, if I am ill, and dying, you will know about it when I am dead, because I will ask someone to explain why I am no longer posting. But that is just me. I am a quiet exit type.
2,544
posted on
04/13/2004 10:35:49 PM PDT
by
Torie
To: Texasforever
My understanding is that it is a terminal illness, it's just variable in the time it takes to get you there. I didn't say I was dying tomorrow. Breathing gets tough in high humidity. If I get a cold the slightest stress can make me hyperventilate. It affects my memory because of the oxygen deprivation. And my extremities go numb in warm weather - good circulation; but, not enough oxygen.
Like I said, it's progressed; but, I'll probably make it another 6 years based on what I was told. Would be nice going out being able to afford the healthcare I will need later; but, I'm an evil thief and a robber for wanting to keep my job according to many here. I will make it somehow. I always do. That does'nt change the fact that what is being done isn't right. And if those of us it's already happened to don't defend the rest, it will keep happening to more and more people. If it were just about me, I'd shut up. It isn't and I therefore speak. It's obvious most here only care about themselves. Somebody has to care about Americans - it's obvious my fellow republicans here are split on the issue of whether it's better to take care of Americans or say screw everyone, where's the profits.
2,545
posted on
04/13/2004 10:36:16 PM PDT
by
Havoc
("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
To: Petronski
Perfect. XBob can help him paddle.
To: Joe Hadenuf
Most don't even believe in it really, they just feel they need to stand by their boy. If Clinton was running this show you think we would be hearing the same "support the President" BS from these neo-CONS? Hypocrites.
To: Torie
Well I have stated publicly that my FR opus is going to be my obituary that will say simply "I am dead and you killed me".
2,548
posted on
04/13/2004 10:38:09 PM PDT
by
Texasforever
(God Bless And Keep Our Troops)
To: Havoc
You lied?
Be sure and put THAT on your resume.
To: Havoc
It's obvious most here only care about themselves. Somebody has to care about Americans...[wiping away tear] Truly you are God's noblest of men!
2,550
posted on
04/13/2004 10:39:09 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(I'm not always cranky.)
To: Jorge
putting more arsenic in the water!This kind of "Chicken Little" comment is the cause of us losing manufacturing and heavy industry jobs overseas. And losing them causes the infrastructure that goes with them to also wither and die.
I read a paper in 1991 that discussed "the coming strangulation by regulation", and that is what is happening. You will not die from arsenic levels in the water, the regulations are based on drinking a certain amount for 70 years causing cancer in 1 in a million cases. So even if you drink this water every day of you whole life, you have 999,999 other ways to die.
Aluminum manufacturing is going to China (#1 in the world now). Iron and steel are going there. Nickel is going over there to make stainless steel. It's hard to find metal plating industries here, almost every iron and other metal foundry has moved out because of regulations. China is growing their economy be leaps and bounds, and well they might to better the life style of their people and make them less willing to accept the tyranny of their current government. But this does not need to happen at the expense of our own security and standard of living.
In short, we are losing our national security by losing these industries, and they are going because they are being strangled by regulations here in the US. EPA environmental actifists make their effort seem beneficial by using paranoia generating terms to define wastes, to word regulations, and the media emphasizes these PGC's (paranoia generating compounds) and PGR's (paranoia generating regulations) to generate, you guessed it, paranoia. It's not science, it's not fact, it's bureaucratic toxity, not chemical, not medical, not scientific.
We won WW II partly because we did a better job than Germany and Japan in bringing technology and management to bear in weapons development. We did better than they because of our democratic system - not just top down, but bottom up as well. The autocratic systems were only top down command and control (read Vanaver Bush's Modern Arms and Free Men).
Well, we need the same approach to regulations. But we don't have it. We also need to have regulators take sensitivity training in real world business. Some might call that Econ 101. It would help as well to be better trained in real science rather than bureaucratic science. Global warming is a lie, Kyoto is a travesty. Toxic isn't toxic. Hazardous is not hazardous. Not in real terms, only in the mind of a bureaucrat.
If the country put the regulatory agencies on a diet of science, truth and reality, then we wouldn't be losing all the good jobs. It's not a question of transferring pollution overseas, since the plants here are not polluting. Not in real terms. Their replacements in China may be polluting, which if we're honestly into making the world a cleaner place to live, then it's better building them here. We need the metals (our precious computers won't run without them), the oil (ditto our SUV's, home heating and airconditioning, electricity), the chemicals (clothing), etc. etc.
Thus what we need is to have regulations be run on a democratic basis. Set goals, and work together to find a way to achieve them. No command and control, no environazis setting agendas, no politicians using paranoia to demagogue their way into office.
Then our world will not only be a cleaner place, but a safer place as well.
2,551
posted on
04/13/2004 10:39:44 PM PDT
by
capocchio
(Science and technology made us what we are, don't throw them away for false gods)
To: Havoc
Baloney. You have been intimating that you are at deaths door and your job prospects are so limited that this job is the last chance you had. So don't try to backtrack now. Terminally ill is an insurance term meaning death within in a year.
2,552
posted on
04/13/2004 10:41:11 PM PDT
by
Texasforever
(God Bless And Keep Our Troops)
To: Havoc
You are still here bitching?
Damn, for someone without a job, you sure have a lot of available time for complaining, whining and feeling sorry for yourself, don't you?
Maybe you should spend a bit of that free time learning some history. If you think the US became a superpower without free-trade, you really need a refresher course.
Finally, you were not fired for being an American, so put down the Union propaganda, and realize that you were probably fired for being too damned expensive.
And is it too late for you to accept that this thread was not supposed to be about you? Or are you just some silly liberal mining for Freeper quotes to post on your loser-guy blog about how we Conservatives didn't blow smoke up your ass?
2,553
posted on
04/13/2004 10:41:21 PM PDT
by
Pukin Dog
(Sans Reproache, but not quite worthy of Condi Rice.)
To: ksen
You and your friends jumped all over a guy who is dying.Yo, butthead.
Read the thread; he was LYING.
Now take your sanctimonious drivel somewhere else.
To: nopardons
Yep. There are many of us.
To: Howlin
This is really weird and painful. I wish it would stop.
2,556
posted on
04/13/2004 10:43:18 PM PDT
by
Torie
To: Texasforever
You're the Messiah? I never would've guessed!
To: Havoc
Wrong! You didn't lose your job because you're an American, you lost your job because your company found that it could hire someone to do the job as well as you can, for less.That's just good business.
Is you company global, or just American?
How much did you claim to make...was it 30k? That's what I seem to recall you said.
To: Texasforever
One last final exit bite. I can dig it. :)
2,559
posted on
04/13/2004 10:45:00 PM PDT
by
Torie
To: Toddsterpatriot
Right you are,rfe Cuba and should he accept to proffered one way ticket, I'll donate to the purchase of same. :-)
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