Grateful Kurds thank U.S soldiers

http://www.tennessean.com/iraq/101/archives/04/04/49790154.shtml?Element_ID=49790154 ^ | 4/13/04 | Anita Wadhwani

[biblewonk]

I'm so surprised not to have heard about this on NBC.

[Cronos]

You know what I am talking about when I say Kurds in relation to their cultural and ethnic difference from the Iraqis.

True Kurds are ethnically different from Arabs, but they are Iraqis. Ethnically they're closer to the Iranis and Azeris

[LoudRepublicangirl]

They are alsoMuslims and would kill the ChristianArabs in Baghdad and south irq like they slaughtered the Christian Armenians and Assyrians.


By the way, not all of the Kurds prescribe to the Islamic faith. They are a people of many beliefs along with the many regions they reside in.

[Cronos]

You know what I am talking about when I say Kurds in relation to their cultural and ethnic difference from the Iraqis.

however, religiously they are Sunni so they are different from their cultural cousins the Iranis

[Jeff Head]

I can't speak to what happened a hundred years ago. My impression of that terrible period is that it was principally instigated by the Turks.

I know this...the Kurds of today are willing to fight for their freedom. They have stood by us in that fight and they are doing the right things now in northern Iraq now to move towards the goal of a free and stable Iraq.

Those actions speak louder than words...and they are what they people there are doing now. I cannot judge the current people by the actions of their great-great grandfathers. None of us want to be strictly held up to that standard.

If they go back down that path, we would then have to take actions regarding the same. The path they are on now is the one that counts now, and in that regard they are working and figting with us, not against us. I am sure we are doing what we are doing with our eyes wide open.

[Cronos]

By the way, not all of the Kurds prescribe to the Islamic faith. They are a people of many beliefs along with the many regions they reside in.

Check out Kurd statics

What Are Their Beliefs?

Nearly all Kurds are Muslim, most being Shafiite Sunnis. They first embraced Islam after the Arab conquests of the seventh century. Today, they primarily look to Islam as a basis for social justice. However, despite being predominantly Muslim, religion has created deep rifts among the Kurds. Many of the dispossessed Kurd minorities have become associated with the secret and unorthodox sects of Islam.

If they convert,that's great, but as long as they belong to the cult of slam, they're our enemies.

[LoudRepublicangirl]

It wasn't Christian arabs who slammed planes into buildings on 9-11 or shot at him in Mosul. I think you know what I mean.

[Cronos]

I can't speak to what happened a hundred years ago. My impression of that terrible period is that it was principally instigated by the Turks.

True, it was instigated by the Turks, but the Kurds were willing helpers and were the majority who actually committed the atrocities and who then robbed the lands of the Armenians and Assyrians which consisted of most of what you now call Central and Western Kurdistan (Eastern Kurdistan is in Azerbaijan and Iran).

I know this...the Kurds of today are willing to fight for their freedom. They have stood by us in that fight and they are doing the right things now in northern Iraq now to move towards the goal of a free and stable Iraq.

True, they're willing to fight for their freedom but they don't want a stable Irq, they want their ownIslamic state. Once they GET that, they'll want to kick us out while they impose Shariah

Those actions speak louder than words...and they are what they people there are doing now. I cannot judge the current people by the actions of their great-great grandfathers. None of us want to be strictly held up to that standard.

They are using us to fight their own battles and will spit on us as soon as they can set up their ownIslamic state.

[Cronos]

I am sure we are doing what we are doing with our eyes wide open.

I think our leaders are being pragmatic, my grouse is with those on this forum who see one small thing like this and immediately jump to the conclusion that these have always been and will always be and ARE our friends. They're not our friends, they are allies in a war and very very temporary allies, like the Soviet Union in WWII

[LoudRepublicangirl]

All I am trying to say is that the Kurds have cooperated much better with us than the MUSLIM arabs. They may be muslims and who knows, they could turn on us someday. But it looks as though our "allies" in Europe have done the same. There are no guarantees.

[Cronos]

Islamdisgusts me, not someone's ethnicity.

[Cronos]

Do you prefer we carpet bomb these people for mistakes their ancestors did?

Nope, but I don't think we can consider them true friends, just war allies.

History... I wont say there isnt still a sect of people in the Kurdish areas with those asperations but your broad brush strokes says alot to me. So far, the Kurdish people have managed to succeed in a self determining govt for 10 yrs which has led to a more secular society but still holding some of their traditions.

Hardly, it's still an islamic land, the western parts of which must be converted and/or handed over to Armenia along with the rest of East Turkey.

[Cronos]

Do you have some sort of problem with America too? Afterall, we had slavery....should Americans not be trusted around black people because of this past?

That's not the same thing. Our silence on the genocide is as bad as our silence on the Kosovan attack on the Christian Serbs

[smith288]

my grouse is with those on this forum who see one small thing like this and immediately jump to the conclusion that these have always been and will always be and ARE our friends.

You certainly jump to conclusions yourself. Find me a post that says "Kurds have been and always will be our bestest friends!"

Some may be ignorant of Kurdish history but im betting many Kurds are ignorant of American history (slavery) but still appreciate us and what we are doing NOW. You seem to be trying to cast all Kurds as bloodthirsty genocidal maniacs...

[Cronos]

All I am trying to say is that the Kurds have cooperated much better with us than the MUSLIM arabs. They may be muslims and who knows, they could turn on us someday. But it looks as though our "allies" in Europe have done the same. There are no guarantees.

I'll grant you that the Muslim Kurds have joined in the war (which was their own war against Saddam and Semitic peoples) against the Semitic Muslim Arabs.

Our "allies" in Europe.... the difference between those spineles traitors and the slammies in the mid east is that the euroweenies won't be sending jihadis to attack us

[Cronos]

You seem to be trying to cast all Kurds as bloodthirsty genocidal maniacs...

Any slammmie will consider it his duty to kill off the infidels. The Kurds did that before and are now a "pure" Islmaic people. They will turn on us when we are no longer of use to them, just as the Saudis (fellow Sunnis) did after GWI

[smith288]

That's not the same thing. Our silence on the genocide is as bad as our silence on the Kosovan attack on the Christian Serbs

It was 90 years ago. Do you demand the relatives of the victims get reparations? It would be different if this was 10 or 20 years ago but the last remaing Kurd who performed such atricities are probably dust in a grave.

So we should base current relations with people on 90 yr old history?

[Two-Bits]

Hi, Please take a moment and either call the President or send an email to let him know we, the American people back him. Also, if you could just tell one person to do the same and ask them to tell another, than God willing, we will flood the switchboard with calls and faxes like they have never seem. This is one way we can take it direct to the President and it can not be misled by the media or stupid polls.....
Please call or email and God bless:
Comments: 202-456-1111 Switchboard: 202-456-1414 FAX: 202-456-2461 E-Mail President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.president@whitehouse.gov

[smith288]

Any slammmie will consider it his duty to kill off the infidels.

Oh, ok, ok. The first chance the Kurds get, they will slaughter us like sheep... I get it.

Moving on.... *cough*

[Cronos]

So we should base current relations with people on 90 yr old history?

Nope, we should realise they're not our "true" friends as they haven't proved it, just been allies in a war they need. If they prove themselves afterwards in the further WoT, THEN I'll change my opinion.