[johnb838]

Yeah? Then why do I get all buzzy and wiry and my lips start tingling after I pull a few shots of espresso? Doesn't happen when I drink my normal autodrip.

THis is all kind of apples to oranges though. Only at starbucks is a small called tall and a medium called grande.

And if you read your Folgers can it says to use 1 tablespoon per 6 ounces of water. I was taught to make coffee with three scoops per pot, period. Make according to the instructions and it's going to be pretty strong.

Bottom line, they took away my beer, they're workin' on my cigarettes, and they're not gettin' my coffee away from me.

[blackdog]

I used to work saturdays doin overtime in the shop refurbing copiers and fax machines in the 80's. Everyone brought a bottle of wine, deli, greek olives, good crusty bread and we drank all day.

These draconian actions against enjoying life are just unrealistic. Life is to be enjoyed, not litigated or spent worrying about what you ingest or consume.

[blackdog]

I think the reason your lips get all tingly from drinking espresso is because of all the VOC's that don't cook off since it's produced so quickly and the isoflavanoids that are in espresso too. Perking or dripping your brew burns off those complex compounds.