The Ugly & Hidden Truth About Partial Birth Abortion

World Magazine ^ | 04.17.04 | Lynn Vincent

[Badeye]

While I have serious questions as to when and how the government can intervene, or should intervene, as it relates to personal actions regarding one's own body, I have no problems with defining this specific medical procedure.

I know the face of genocide when I see it. I've seen a 15 minute tape of the procedure, used as an education tool at medical schools. If the American people were shown that tape, this wouldn't even be discussed.

[M0sby]

From a prayer thread I am part of.

This baby was not even IN THE 3rd trimester (which begins at 27 weeks).

Abortions like those described above are STILL LEGAL in some places.

This little one only "cooked" for 24 weeks before beings delivered.

I just think it is VERY POINGNENT

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Prayer Request for A Tiny Baby

His due date was in October, making his mommy 26 weeks along, being born 3 months and 3 days early.

Logan was 1 lb 9.4 oz when he was born and is now weighing, as of this morning, 1 lb. 8.3 oz. The little guy is now 12-1/2” long.

Logan in July, 2004.

Logan on Easter Sunday.

[MHGinTN]

At that point, according to Mr. Sekulow, the witnessserial killer became "very angry" ... these servants of the satanic don't like having their serial killing methodologies exposed to the light, don'tcha know! And the democrat party leaps to defend this evil because it empowers them for votes, blood-drenched votes.

[ought-six]

Great picture of a little angel playing in the clover. I see God in that baby's smile. Thank you for posting it.

[ought-six]

Great picture of a little angel playing in the clover. I see God in that baby's smile. Thank you for posting it.

[M0sby]

ME TOO!!! At times we really thought he might not make it.
It is just amazing to me how much of a Miracle this little one really is. And how many people prayed, and how many doctors and nurses labored, and how his parents hung on to the little thread of hope that is now this beautiful little baby boy.
And how, some people would like nothing more than to continue to throw a "Life" like Logan's life, right into the trash bucket.
Logan is so beautiful, and they are so sick~

[cpforlife.org]

Dave! Thanks so much for your inspiring post! Truly wonderful!

[Coleus]

Isn't the preparation for a part-birth abortion an "arranging" of a breech birth, but not allowing the birth to proceed?>>

Yes, it sure is and "arranging" the death of the child is the appropriate term, the butcher, with the permission of his mother, sets up the baby by turning him around to set the stage for the execution where his skull is crushed, punctured and brains sucked out, and we call ourselves civilized. AND IT'S LEGAL!! The procedure can be seen on this thread.

[Coleus]

the obedient media repeats the euphemistic phrases until they become common Newspeak in our lexicon. >>>

Even in this present case where the judge asked these questions, none of the major newspapers is covering the story properly by describing the procedure and printing the transcripts.

[scripter]

Bump and ping.

Everyone should read this.

[Concerned]

BADEYE WROTE: "While I have serious questions as to when and how the government can intervene, or should intervene, as it relates to personal actions regarding one's own body, I have no problems with defining this specific medical procedure."

As the mother of a very severely mentally and physically disabled 19 year old daughter who neither walks nor talks, and who wears diapers and cannot feed herself, and also as the mother of a 4 year old with 4 miscarriages inbetween, I am VERY interested in the subject of so-called abortion "rights."

In 1974, I had to do an unbiased simulated radio broadcast on a controversial topic for a Radio-TV class I was taking in college. I picked abortion because I was VERY PRO-ABORTION, and I thought it would be a "piece of cake" to put to shame what I then thought were "those right-wing religious nuts."

After having to force myself to see what "those right-wing religious nuts" believed---and HOW they could POSSIBLY be so stupid---I became EDUCATED.

I learned that "it" ISN'T the "mother's body" that is being aborted---"it" is a LIVING, HUMAN BABY!!!

"It" has his or her OWN HEART BEAT in 18 to 24 DAYS after conception (the mother may not even realize she is pregnant yet).

"It" has his or her OWN BLOOD STREAM! "It" can even have a TOTALLY DIFFERENT BLOOD TYPE than his or her mother's---How can ONE HUMAN have TWO DIFFERENT BLOOD STREAMS??????? Answer: The mother's body and "it's" body are NOT ONE body!!!!! The mother's body incubates the preborn baby for 9 months.

It didn't take long to realize I had been WRONG about abortion. And in the 30 years since I "saw the Light," I remain VERY PRO-LIFE.

[Concerned]

I forgot to add, the baby has his or her OWN DNA as well. As a question similar to my previously asked one, how can ONE HUMAN have TWO DIFFERENT DNAs???????

[Badeye]

"It didn't take long to realize I had been WRONG about abortion. And in the 30 years since I "saw the Light," I remain VERY PRO-LIFE."

I understand your viewpoint. As a male, I'm a bit leery on this subject, for the obvious reason.

I've always thought that those holding Pro Life views are better served leading by example, rather than raising hell with those that have a differing viewpoint. Operation Rescue, which I had several encounters with professionally in the 1980's and early 1990's (I was heavily involved in various Executive Protection related fields at the time) convinced me the tactics used were just wrong. I think OR did more to hurt the pro life movement than anything Planned Parenthood could ever dream up.

I think Roe v Wade was "bad law", this should never have been a Federal issue, it should have remained a States Rights issue.

As for Partial Birth Abortion....I know the face of Genocide when I see it. On that score, I am very happy its been outlawed, at least for the time being.

I guess what it comes down to with me is this. I figure our actions in this life will be judged accordingly by a power much higher than myself. I'm okay with my coming judgement.

I suspect as a matter of faith that both sides of this issue have those that will be answering for their actions. Both sides have some explaining to do, imho.

[fortunecookie]

Isn't the preparation for a part-birth abortion an "arranging" of a breech birth, but not allowing the birth to proceed?

It is indeed. I can't imagine anything more awkward. And generally, when a breech birth is suspected, special measures are taken to monitor the baby and try to move it or prep for a c-section, because of the dangers to both baby and mother, so how is it more desirable in a supposedly difficult situation to intentionally induce a breech? I can only think of cranial anomalies as presenting a possible need, but how wouldn't a c-section be safer? Of course, that's rhetorical, because then they couldn't 'legally' extract the contents for medical use. Ugh.

[fortunecookie]

Indeed it is. The abortionists call it Intact D & X for dilation (of the cervix) and extraction (of the child, which is intact). It is difficult to imagine a more invasive procedure, so I always wonder: whatever happened to that "penumbra of privacy" the supreme court found?

It is a complete perversion of the birth process. It's hard to imagine, thankfully, I can't, anything more awkward or invasive. It figures they have some clinical and neutral sounding term to placate the mother.