[Kaslin]

If you really want to know the truth, it is that we can thank Jimmy Peanut Carter for the situation we are in when he supported the ouster of the Shaw of Iran, who was a great supporter and friend of the US

[A CA Guy]

Jimmy was a punk for sure and he most certainly made it tough for the hostages and America under his presence in the White house, but I will stick with Clinton being responsible for the billions we pay for now in war, the growth of terror with billions of Laden monies when instead the creep should have been taken into custody in 96.

Doug from Upland should be typing his fingernails off on these threads about how Clinton is ultimately responsible. He knows so much more about Clinton than I would EVER care to know.

[CalKat]

Perhaps it goes even further back to when we overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran to put the Shah back in power. The seeds of the so called democracy we want were there, but the elections didn't go our way, so we squashed it immediately, to no advantage of average Iranians.