Scientific integrity and the gospel of Christ

Aw, you guys had all the fun!

Maybe I'll go on a bear hunt myself.

[Talk of before the Big Bang is without meaning.]

In other words they don't have an answer.

Don't quit your day job.

The statement is completely accurate, as you would know if you understood the theory and the associated mathematics. Don't attempt to render something into "other words" when you don't understand it in the first place.

To complicated to explain to us below your intelligence level huh? Or maybe your just not smart enough to explain it because you really don't understand it yourself. Give me a break. I've got an MS from an accredited university - heavy in the math, thermal sciences and heat transfer. Had several calculus based physics classes to. Surely you in all your superior knowledge could at least on some "elementary" level explain what came before the big bang?

I think the answer is you don't know: thus the cop out explanation (in the more intelligent than you voice playing and nose in the air) "it is without meaning".

Sounds like philosophy not science.

[Talk of before the Big Bang is without meaning.]
[In other words they don't have an answer.]
[The statement is completely accurate, as you would know if you understood the theory and the associated mathematics. Don't attempt to render something into "other words" when you don't understand it in the first place.]

To complicated to explain to us below your intelligence level huh?

Nope. Too simple too explain to people who think they know all the answers already and are arrogant enough to insult those who *do* know the topic.

Or maybe your just not smart enough to explain it because you really don't understand it yourself.

I understand it just fine. I'm also smart enough to know the difference between "your" and "you're", "too" and "to".

Give me a break.

No. You started the snideness by cockily denigrating a perfectly good explanation as if it were a cheap evasion. You're not going to get off the hook now that you find that your arrogance might have been misplaced.

I've got an MS from an accredited university - heavy in the math, thermal sciences and heat transfer. Had several calculus based physics classes to.

Then what's your excuse for not understanding basic physics? Your nuts-and-bolts engineering education isn't the best foundation for delving into theoretical physics, especially since you seemed to have stopped short of differential equations on the math side, and probably didn't get more than a taste of quantum mechanics or relativity (if that), but the basics of the Big Bang theory are understandable my most bright high schoolers -- a preliminary understanding doesn't take a PhD.

Surely you in all your superior knowledge could at least on some "elementary" level explain what came before the big bang?

No problem, son: What came before the Big Bang is the same thing that's colder than absolute zero, East of the equator, below the center of the Earth, or after eternity.

If that still doesn't help, I'm not sure how to make it any more elementary.

I think the answer is you don't know: thus the cop out explanation (in the more intelligent than you voice playing and nose in the air) "it is without meaning".

Let me know when you wind down.

Sounds like philosophy not science.

Only because you haven't understood it.

Nope. Too simple too explain to people who think they know all the answers already and are arrogant enough to insult those who *do* know the topic.

Ask a simple question....

I understand it just fine. I'm also smart enough to know the difference between "your" and "you're", "too" and "to".

I'm happy for you.

No. You started the snideness by cockily denigrating a perfectly good explanation as if it were a cheap evasion. You're not going to get off the hook now that you find that your arrogance might have been misplaced.

I haven't heard an explanation yet.

Then what's your excuse for not understanding basic physics? Your nuts-and-bolts engineering education isn't the best foundation for delving into theoretical physics, especially since you seemed to have stopped short of differential equations on the math side, and probably didn't get more than a taste of quantum mechanics or relativity (if that), but the basics of the Big Bang theory are understandable my most bright high schoolers -- a preliminary understanding doesn't take a PhD.

I thought you were a high schooler.

No problem, son: What came before the Big Bang is the same thing that's colder than absolute zero, East of the equator, below the center of the Earth, or after eternity. If that still doesn't help, I'm not sure how to make it any more elementary.

If that's your answer go home boy. Just say you don't know and keep yourself from looking like an idiot.

Let me know when you wind down.

More like when I get tired of wasting time with a scoffer who talks in circles because he thinks he knows everything and is to proud to say "I don't know".