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U.S. Military Seeks Fallujah Cease-Fire
ajc.com ^ | 04-10-04 0328EDT | AP

Posted on 04/10/2004 10:36:48 AM PDT by Destro

U.S. Military Seeks Fallujah Cease-Fire

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP)--A U.S. general on Saturday called on Sunni militants in the besieged city of Fallujah to join in a bilateral cease-fire.

``Today what we are seeking is a bilateral cease-fire,'' Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt told reporters in Baghdad. ``This is an aspiration.''

He added that he was ``hoping to get this message to the enemy through this press conference so they can join the cease-fire.''

U.S. Marines besieging Fallujah this week called a unilateral halt in offensive operations on Friday. There was no immediate response from insurgents to Kimmitt's call to join a bilateral cease-fire.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fallujah; iraq; turass
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Why?
1 posted on 04/10/2004 10:36:49 AM PDT by Destro
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To: Destro
So we can get them all into one place in a gathering, while they celebrate their "victory" then we drop a Daisy Cutter on the festivities?

Hey, I can dream can't I?
2 posted on 04/10/2004 10:38:44 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (I havn't seen my therapist in 5 years. Neither has anyone else ;0))
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To: Destro
Wait a minute - does this mean we're regarding them as legitimate combatants?
3 posted on 04/10/2004 10:40:09 AM PDT by inquest (The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
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To: Destro
Ceasefire collapses, US hostage taken in Iraq

Transcript

This is a transcript from AM. The program is broadcast around Australia at 08:00 on ABC Local Radio.

You can also listen to the story in REAL AUDIO and WINDOWS MEDIA formats.

AM - Saturday, 10 April , 2004 08:00:58

Reporter: Peter Cave

TANYA NOLAN: It's the day after the 12-month anniversary of the toppling of Saddam's regime, and things appear bloodier than ever in Iraq.

The ceasefire called by US troops in Fallujah less than 24-hours ago seems to have already collapsed, with mortar rounds ringing out across the Sunni city where 450 Iraqis have died this week.

America has announced the death of six more of it's soldiers, taking the number of US troops killed since Shia unrest erupted on Sunday, to 39.

Meanwhile, insurgents are taking more foreign hostages, an alarming new strategy being used to try and drive coalition forces out of Iraq.

Our own ABC staff on the ground in Iraq have witnessed the taking of the latest hostage.

Hundreds of Sunni Mujahideen or Holy warriors armed with rocket propelled grenades, attacked a convoy of oil tankers taking fuel to US forces besieged in the town of Fallujah, destroying at least a dozen trucks and killing or wounding several drivers.

For hours, the Mujahideen ruled the main east-west highway in Iraq, where they took at least one American hostage.

Our Foreign Affairs Editor Peter Cave reports how he and his cameraman, Michael Cox, were taken by members of the Mujahideen to film the latest hostage, whose fate remains unknown.

PETER CAVE: It was a huge pall of thick black smoke billowing high into the air, west of the capital, that attracted our attention. As we drove closer we passed a burnt out oil tanker, a gaping hole in its side, then another and another.

(Audio excerpt recorded on scene)

PETER CAVE: There appears to have been a major attack on oil facilities on the road just up ahead. There are three major fires burning up there with smoke going high into the sky, and just beside us here, an oil tanker is well on fire.

(End audio excerpt recorded on scene)

PETER CAVE: But as we continued up the highway, it became clear it wasn't an oil facility, it was more oil tankers blazing furiously.

(Audio excerpt recorded on scene)

PETER CAVE: On the road ahead, two oil tankers are burning. We've passed another half a dozen already on this road. There's been a major attack by Mujahideen. Just a short while ago, we spoke to an American who'd been taken prisoner by the Mujahideen.

(End audio excerpt recorded on scene)

PETER CAVE: We'd been filming an oil tanker upside down in a ditch beside the road. Local people were braving the fierce heat trying to pull something from the cabin, most probably the driver, who was certainly dead.

(Audio of burning wreckage)

Suddenly, a large late model Toyota Saloon pulled up right in front of us.

(Audio of people speaking)

And three men, two of them masked, climbed out carrying assault rifles and insisted we look at the prize they had in the car.

(Audio excerpt recorded on scene)

PETER CAVE: What's happened?

AMERICAN HOSTAGE: They attacked our convoy. That's all I'm going to say.

PETER CAVE: Okay.

(End audio excerpt recorded on scene)

PETER CAVE: Their hostage, being held by two more masked men in the car, was wounded in the arm, his blue jeans covered in blood. He had blonde hair and a moustache and appeared more defiant than scared as they roughly yanked his head across so we could see his face.

(Audio excerpt recorded on scene)

PETER CAVE: Do you want to give us your name?

AMERICAN HOSTAGE: Hamil (phonetic), Thomas.

(Audio of banging on car roof)

MASKED MAN: Go, go.

PETER CAVE: Okay, okay.

(Audio of car driving off)

(End audio excerpt recorded on scene)

PETER CAVE: As they drove off, another car full of armed Mujahideen pulled up.

"I swear in the name of Allah", he says, "we don't care about death or life, we're going to heaven. Death is welcome."

We had to driver some kilometres back towards Baghdad before we found any coalition troops. Several tanks and two APCs guarding an overpass and watching the huge palls of smoke on the road totally under the control of the Mujahideen.

(Audio excerpt recorded on scene)

AMERICAN SOLDIER: Just past that first burning tanker?

PETER CAVE: We're the first people on…

(End audio excerpt recorded on scene) We reported the fate of the American hostage but there was no immediate move to mount a rescue. (Audio of crowd chanting) Several more kilometres down the road and tens of thousands have gathered chanting "Jihad", or "holy war" in the huge Sunni mosque Saddam built on the western edge of Baghdad. (Audio of speaker yelling through loudspeaker) The speaker says, "we will say no with one voice. You Americans will not pass through here. There is no legitimacy in the new Iraq, except for those who fight." This is Peter Cave in Baghdad, for Saturday AM.

4 posted on 04/10/2004 10:41:38 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: river rat; Squantos; SevenDaysInMay; Robert_Paulson2; Destro
"I swear in the name of Allah", he says, "we don't care about death or life, we're going to heaven. Death is welcome."

Give them what they want.

And pray for Thomas Hamil and the other hostages....

5 posted on 04/10/2004 10:45:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Destro
Can you repost #4 as a fresh thread? It is worth its own thread. Thanks.
6 posted on 04/10/2004 10:46:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Sounds like the rant from the Prince last night ?
7 posted on 04/10/2004 10:46:49 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Travis McGee
(End audio excerpt recorded on scene) We reported the fate of the American hostage but there was no immediate move to mount a rescue. (Audio of crowd chanting) Several more kilometres down the road and tens of thousands have gathered chanting "Jihad", or "holy war" in the huge Sunni mosque Saddam built on the western edge of Baghdad. (Audio of speaker yelling through loudspeaker) The speaker says, "we will say no with one voice. You Americans will not pass through here. There is no legitimacy in the new Iraq, except for those who fight." This is Peter Cave in Baghdad, for Saturday AM.

Why is the Saddam Mosque still standing?

8 posted on 04/10/2004 10:49:26 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro; Squantos
We're just a couple of ants watching elephants battle on the far horizon. It's easy to get frustrated, but we're seeing about 10% of the picture, if that. Just pray for our troops, and hope for victory in our world war against islamic terror.
9 posted on 04/10/2004 10:51:54 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Destro
>We reported the fate of the American hostage but
>there was no immediate move to mount a rescue.
>(Audio of crowd chanting)

Good grief, more media jackals begging for American Marines to fall into an ambush. All they care about is getting a chance to film people getting killed, especially if those killed are Americans.
10 posted on 04/10/2004 10:53:23 AM PDT by nonomous
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To: xzins
Good thread here.
11 posted on 04/10/2004 10:53:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: nonomous; Travis McGee
That is good reporting bythe Aussie reporter - not media jackal like behavior.
12 posted on 04/10/2004 10:58:38 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Good guestion, Why?

Are we getting our butt kick? Are we trying to move our troop into a better positions, so as not to receive a butt kicking?? Are the terrorist as stupid as the generals, to believe in a cease fire?? And tell me again, why are the mosques still standing? And where is the coalition government? Look upon the hills, scattered like sheep and a shepherd with brains.

Only time will tell what next.

Stay tune for more tales from Ripley believe it or not, war in Iraq.
13 posted on 04/10/2004 10:59:45 AM PDT by Warlord David
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Yeah, get them all together & talk... If they don't comply drop the MOAB... Then call for another cease fire & talk to someone new,,, etc. etc.
14 posted on 04/10/2004 11:02:53 AM PDT by maxamillion (Once that first bullet goes by your head, politics & everything else, goes right out the window)
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To: Destro
They want the Americans to pull back 20 miles, then they say they will "cease fire". Read between the lines -- they will slaughter thousands if the Americans pull back. We need to drop a big one on them. No pullbacks.
15 posted on 04/10/2004 11:12:37 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Warlord David
In this upside down world we live in, the victor calls for the cease fire and the losing side calls for no cease fire. By this line of reasoning, the loser becomes the winner and winner becomes the loser. It's a long road to sanity via Baghdad.
16 posted on 04/10/2004 11:12:52 AM PDT by meenie
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To: Destro
``Today what we are seeking is a bilateral cease-fire,'' Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt told reporters in Baghdad. ``This is an aspiration.''

Until he gets his arse shot off. What a dreamer.

Anyway, that's how I see it.

17 posted on 04/10/2004 11:13:40 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) (``)
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To: Travis McGee
But on the ground, US Lieutenant Colonel Brennan Byrne said he had no orders regarding a ceasefire. "I'll continue to fight until I'm instructed to do different," he said.

see link

18 posted on 04/10/2004 11:14:05 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Destro
U.S. Marines besieging Fallujah this week called a unilateral halt in offensive operations on Friday

Unless it was for Good Friday and Easter, what is this unilateral ceasefire horsepucky? I thought sending such "signals" to the enemy went out with LBJ and Tricky Dick, considering how well it (did not) work then?(Although TD's "signaling" with B-52s over Hanoi and Haiphong worked pretty darn well, and is the sort of signal needed here)

The only signal I'd send at this point is "surrender or die, your choice", especially remembering that these are the animals who desecrated bodies during what appears to have been a staged media event. They get no consideration from me, and they shouldn't get any from the Marines either.

19 posted on 04/10/2004 11:15:03 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: meenie
There more that just came in on Free Republic check it out.
20 posted on 04/10/2004 11:29:42 AM PDT by Warlord David
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