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A future regulation with a 0% chance of funded enforcement, why bother?
1 posted on 04/10/2004 5:37:46 AM PDT by j_tull
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Worse yet, even if you fund enforcement, you won't GET enforcement. What are the feds going to do about a remote server in Tuvalu, Bulgaria or Sealand?

Moreover, the spammers/malware providers are very good at burying consent deep into the EULA. The uninstallation may consist of a hard to follow program that messes up the registry and creates more problems than it solves.
2 posted on 04/10/2004 5:42:20 AM PDT by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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Why does it need to be "declared" to be like trespassing on private property? Either it is trespassing or it isn't. If it is, then it's already illegal.

We don't need some new law for every conceivable situation.

3 posted on 04/10/2004 5:43:16 AM PDT by inquest (The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
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I had some spyware latch onto to my PC a month ago. It caused havoc with my programs and my kids had to work to get it off.

Now they have installed all sorts of spykillers, popup and cookie killers.

This is ridiculous. Why should some spyware that disables my PC not be classified as destruction of private property?
4 posted on 04/10/2004 5:44:16 AM PDT by OpusatFR (John Kerry - Cheezewhiz for the mind - marshmallow sludge for the masses)
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Spyware purveyors ought to get jail time AND genital mutilation as their penalties.

This next statement just kills me: akin to trespassing on private property. It IS private property. It's the same thing as Wal-Mart coming to your house and putting a sign up in your yard. I had one of these things on my machine that was eating about 40-50% of CPU, and nearly all my dial up bandwidth, so that it was virtually impossible to surf the internet. I found out who the company was that put it out there, and threatened them with a massive class action lawsuit. Never heard back from them, of course.

One more rant, and I'll stop. Isn't it dangerous and contradictory for Democrats to support private property rights? Isn't that the roadway to a counter-revolutionary bourgeous middle class? Ralph Nader wouldn't like that.

6 posted on 04/10/2004 5:49:01 AM PDT by Hardastarboard
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Here's a question for the other techies out there...

I've got a client who is afraid that his system may have been compromised by a key-stroke logging program. While I haven't been out to visit his system, I'm wondering if this sort of thing would be found by something like Spybot S&D, or AdAware?

Is there any good security site that lists processes and files that might be found on a computer that's been hit by one of these programs?

Thanks,

Mark
8 posted on 04/10/2004 6:08:17 AM PDT by MarkL (The meek shall inherit the earth... But usually in plots 6' x 3' x 6' deep...)
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Keystroke loggers and spyware developers may soon be silenced, as Congress is debating a bill that would outlaw the intrusive software and declare it akin to trespassing on private property.

Except when that program has been placed their by your humble civil "servants".
9 posted on 04/10/2004 6:14:12 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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We need 2nd Amendment rights against hackers of all types... if they're stealing resources and information from your computer, you have the right to beat the living crap out of them and leave them buried alive in a New Jersey swamp.
15 posted on 04/10/2004 6:40:17 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Voting Bush for lack of reasonable alternatives)
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Jethro,

Go to http://www.lavasoftusa.com and download Ad Aware (it's free). Follow the installation instructions after downloading and run the program, all adware and spyware will be cleaned off.
20 posted on 04/10/2004 7:25:29 AM PDT by Archangelsk (Shall we have a king?)
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A future regulation with a 0% chance of funded enforcement, why bother?

One thing you can do is avoid Drudge's spyware ridden, pop up loaded, computer invading site.

Have you ever run a spyware check specifically after visiting his site? You will be shocked at the heaps of trash Drudge throws at your computer.

24 posted on 04/10/2004 7:37:43 AM PDT by BJungNan
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M_F, this might be a good time to trot out those links you have relative to this issue. They sure have helped me fight this problem . . .

Jethro, I agree with you. Any solution conjured up by the government will be less than acceptable.

As a personal observation, 98% of my troubles disappeared when I installed Zone Alarm Pro. Money well spent.
27 posted on 04/10/2004 7:54:36 AM PDT by BraveMan
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30 posted on 04/11/2004 11:03:56 AM PDT by B Knotts (Salve!)
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