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Message To Spyware: Get Off Our Private Property
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| Gene J. Koprowski
Posted on 04/10/2004 5:37:46 AM PDT by j_tull
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A future regulation with a 0% chance of funded enforcement, why bother?
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posted on
04/10/2004 5:37:46 AM PDT
by
j_tull
To: j_tull
Worse yet, even if you fund enforcement, you won't GET enforcement. What are the feds going to do about a remote server in Tuvalu, Bulgaria or Sealand?
Moreover, the spammers/malware providers are very good at burying consent deep into the EULA. The uninstallation may consist of a hard to follow program that messes up the registry and creates more problems than it solves.
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posted on
04/10/2004 5:42:20 AM PDT
by
sittnick
(There's no salvation in politics.)
To: j_tull
Why does it need to be "declared" to be like trespassing on private property? Either it is trespassing or it isn't. If it is, then it's already illegal.
We don't need some new law for every conceivable situation.
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posted on
04/10/2004 5:43:16 AM PDT
by
inquest
(The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
To: j_tull
I had some spyware latch onto to my PC a month ago. It caused havoc with my programs and my kids had to work to get it off.
Now they have installed all sorts of spykillers, popup and cookie killers.
This is ridiculous. Why should some spyware that disables my PC not be classified as destruction of private property?
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posted on
04/10/2004 5:44:16 AM PDT
by
OpusatFR
(John Kerry - Cheezewhiz for the mind - marshmallow sludge for the masses)
To: sittnick
Moreover, the spammers/malware providers are very good at burying consent deep into the EULA. The uninstallation may consist of a hard to follow program that messes up the registry and creates more problems than it solves.Excellent point.
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posted on
04/10/2004 5:48:14 AM PDT
by
j_tull
("I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.")
To: j_tull
Spyware purveyors ought to get jail time AND genital mutilation as their penalties.
This next statement just kills me: akin to trespassing on private property. It IS private property. It's the same thing as Wal-Mart coming to your house and putting a sign up in your yard. I had one of these things on my machine that was eating about 40-50% of CPU, and nearly all my dial up bandwidth, so that it was virtually impossible to surf the internet. I found out who the company was that put it out there, and threatened them with a massive class action lawsuit. Never heard back from them, of course.
One more rant, and I'll stop. Isn't it dangerous and contradictory for Democrats to support private property rights? Isn't that the roadway to a counter-revolutionary bourgeous middle class? Ralph Nader wouldn't like that.
To: Hardastarboard
A 'summer student' last year downloaded a bunch of software (for god knows what reason) onto the 'community' computer that is in my office and that I'm responsible for. In less than 2 weeks the computer was completely non-usable - extremely slow, pop-ups galore, etc., etc. - and had to be sanitized. The first run-through of AdAware found over 600 spyware programs onboard.
Disgusting.
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posted on
04/10/2004 6:04:19 AM PDT
by
DoctorMichael
(The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
To: j_tull
Here's a question for the other techies out there...
I've got a client who is afraid that his system may have been compromised by a key-stroke logging program. While I haven't been out to visit his system, I'm wondering if this sort of thing would be found by something like Spybot S&D, or AdAware?
Is there any good security site that lists processes and files that might be found on a computer that's been hit by one of these programs?
Thanks,
Mark
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posted on
04/10/2004 6:08:17 AM PDT
by
MarkL
(The meek shall inherit the earth... But usually in plots 6' x 3' x 6' deep...)
To: j_tull
Keystroke loggers and spyware developers may soon be silenced, as Congress is debating a bill that would outlaw the intrusive software and declare it akin to trespassing on private property.
Except when that program has been placed their by your humble civil "servants".
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posted on
04/10/2004 6:14:12 AM PDT
by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: MarkL
I use Pest Patrol, which does an initial scan for keyboard loggers at login.
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posted on
04/10/2004 6:19:33 AM PDT
by
j_tull
("I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.")
To: Kozak
Exactly. If government's allowed to do it, then everyone should be allowed to.
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posted on
04/10/2004 6:19:36 AM PDT
by
inquest
(The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
To: MarkL
Some will be found some may not be. Get both Spybot and Ad-Aware, and update and run them weekly. Also, get an antivirus program, keep it up to date.
The vulnerability of MS products to malware is becoming an unmanagable problem for the industry. If Bill and Co don't fix their security problem in Longhorn MS will be a much smaller company in a few years.
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posted on
04/10/2004 6:20:55 AM PDT
by
Rifleman
To: MarkL
Try Zone Alarm. It will notify you of anything that trys to access the network.
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posted on
04/10/2004 6:21:20 AM PDT
by
Abcdefg
To: Abcdefg
Try Zone Alarm. It will notify you of anything that trys to access the network.Glad to see I wasn't the only one to think of this!
I told him to download it from Zonelabs, and I'm waiting to hear back from him on it.
Thanks!
Mark
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posted on
04/10/2004 6:26:27 AM PDT
by
MarkL
(The meek shall inherit the earth... But usually in plots 6' x 3' x 6' deep...)
To: j_tull
We need 2nd Amendment rights against hackers of all types... if they're stealing resources and information from your computer, you have the right to beat the living crap out of them and leave them buried alive in a New Jersey swamp.
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posted on
04/10/2004 6:40:17 AM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Voting Bush for lack of reasonable alternatives)
To: MarkL
Kids downloaded some Malware the other day that redirected all my search engines to one search engine called BestSE. even my start page was directed to this. Ad-Aware and spyBot couldn't get it off.
Found a program called "Hi-jack This" http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html"
It lists all possible Malware and spyware on your computer and you check off the stuff you want to get rid of. Please use with somebody computer savvy. Checking the wrong stuff off may do more harm than good.
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posted on
04/10/2004 7:05:35 AM PDT
by
philo
To: MarkL
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posted on
04/10/2004 7:15:36 AM PDT
by
Drammach
(Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
To: j_tull
Does Ad-Aware do that?
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posted on
04/10/2004 7:19:47 AM PDT
by
Howlin
((Please stop.....you know I don't have the intellect to keep up with you!))
To: philo
I use a combination of SpyBot and a little program called CWShredder.
Both have kept my system clean of these nasty little programs.
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posted on
04/10/2004 7:24:37 AM PDT
by
reagan_fanatic
(So you're a feminist - isn't that cute!)
To: j_tull
Jethro,
Go to
http://www.lavasoftusa.com and download Ad Aware (it's free). Follow the installation instructions after downloading and run the program, all adware and spyware will be cleaned off.
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posted on
04/10/2004 7:25:29 AM PDT
by
Archangelsk
(Shall we have a king?)
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