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SPAIN'S CROWN PRINCE IN SNIT AT MIA (MIAMI INTERNATIONAL)
Miami Herald ^ | Apr. 10, 2004 | Luisa Yanez,Ina Paiva Cordle

Posted on 04/10/2004 4:39:59 AM PDT by JesseHousman

An international incident is touched off when Miami airport screeners insist on examining the luggage of the successor to the Spanish throne and his entourage.

Crown Prince Felipe of Spain and his fiancée pitched a royal fit at Miami International Airport Thursday night, when screeners insisted on searching the future king's luggage -- just as they would any Average Joe's.

Members of the prince's entourage called the required inspection of their private belongings an ''insult'' and ''humiliating'' -- sparking a diplomatic flap that has the United States and Spain on the brink of a protocol war.

Crowning it off, Iberia Airlines, the prince's carrier of choice, is suggesting it might pull out of the airport, according to two sources close to the international incident.

Now, Miami-Dade Mayor Alex Penelas has sent the Prince of Asturias, next in line for the throne, an apology, saying he's asked for an investigation into what went wrong.

Thursday's diplomatic dust-up occurred when the tall, blue-eyed, 36-year-old Prince Felipe de Borbón and his beautiful bride-to-be, Letizia Ortiz, 31, a well-known TV newscaster, flew into MIA to catch a connecting flight home.

The couple and four bodyguards landed at MIA around 5 p.m. on a private chartered jet from Nassau. They were booked on a 6 p.m. Iberia Airlines flight to Madrid.

Whether the prince gave U.S. diplomatic officials enough notice of his arrival is at the heart of the problem.

The U.S. State Department requires 72 hours notice to arrange for expedited security screening in a private area. The prince's people called with six hours notice.

When members of the royal party were told that they and their carry-ons would have to be searched -- just like the masses -- the royal flap erupted.

''We're your allies!'' one member of the royal delegation shouted in Spanish to inspectors at a particularly tense moment.

But according to Lauren Stover, spokeswoman for the Transportation Security Administration in Miami, the screeners were only doing their jobs. The mandates of the Department of Homeland Security following Sept. 11 require that all commercial airline passengers be screened -- even the princely ones.

''The prince and his bodyguard felt they should not be subjected to the screening, but if they do not have an escort from the State Department or the Secret Service, it is required,'' Stover said. ``It's the law.''

To accommodate blue-blooded sensibilities, the TSA gave the group a choice of a quick public screening or a slower but private one away from commoners. The royal entourage chose a private screening and the group was taken to an American Airlines' lounge.

Stover said three ''top-notch screeners with VIP experience'' and two supervisors rushed to the lounge to conduct the search.

The need by the princess-to-be to go the powder room caused another flare-up. Ortiz was told her already-searched purse would be searched again on her return from the nonsecure area. She decided to hold it.

That sparked more angry words and exchanges, delaying the process and making the entire royal party late for the flight, which waited.

At one point, Milton Oribe, Iberia's station manager, said he would ignore the required screening, come what may, witnesses said.

Oribe also offered to vouch for the prince and his entourage, adding that he would see to it that the Spanish carrier withdrew from MIA, according to witnesses on the scene.

Mayor Penelas, calling the brouhaha a ''lamentable situation,'' immediately sent a letter of apology to the the royal family and pointed out those doing the screening were federal employees.

''The facts I have received thus far indicate an apparent disregard for protocol and disrespect of His Highness and his delegation. . . . I have called upon our County Manager to conduct a complete investigation into this matter,'' Penelas wrote in a letter dated Thursday.

An official of the Spanish Consulate in Miami said Friday that it will be up to Consul General Javier Vallaure to decide whether a complaint will be sent to the U.S. State Department.

''We don't consider this the proper way to treat our future king; it's a breach of protocol,'' said the consular official, who would not give his name.

Said Stover: ``Had anything happened on that flight to the prince or anyone on that aircraft because we decided to relax our screening processes, that would have been catastrophic and a complete failure on our part.''


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; aliens; apology; crownprince; miami; royals; screening; spain; tsa; turass
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To: livius
It says that the Spanish group didn't give enough advance notice, but I don't see why 6 hours notice was not enough for the airport people to get their "high level screeners" to the airport and ready to meet this group.

Well, you see, it's quite simple, really:
You don't get to decide what is enough time.

I agree that there might be a problem, but to blame the lowest level workers is a serious mistake. Elect morons to congress, and this is the level of sophistication that you get in establishing rules enforced by other morons.

The solution is to have minimum qualifications for the people who make the rules.

121 posted on 04/10/2004 9:26:58 AM PDT by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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To: JesseHousman
this is not good enough for Americans! Security "procedures" in airports are counterproductive and useless. There needs to be a more sophisticated method of screening than what what has been edicted and then employed by these vapidly stupid TSA employees.
The point of the "security" at airports isn't security. It's partly pacification of the masses by bolting the barn door after the horse has escaped. Its primary purpose is to test police state tactics on US citizens. This was proven by the fact that the first head of the "TSA" wasn't someone with security experience, but Clinton's BATF director.

-Eric

122 posted on 04/10/2004 9:32:26 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: mewzilla
And it was pretty gutless of Penelas to apologize.

I'll bet you a week's pay that was a partisan jab. The mayor of Miami has just about got to be a Dem, and this gives him a chance to take the high road and slam the administration.

That said, the entire airport screen system is a disaster. It treats millions of innocent people every day as potential terrorists, and does not, imho, make the country any safer.

123 posted on 04/10/2004 9:32:47 AM PDT by Brandon
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To: FITZ
I'm sure they were being extremely rude and thoughtless..
And I'm sure that no one knew who they were, or "how important" they were..

I'm also sure there was at least a small entourage, including personal security, aides, etc..
And I'm also sure that they had the appropriate Visas, and Diplomatic papers identifying his rank and status..

It's not "silly" to expect airport screeners and their supervisors to have at least rudimentary familiarity with international passports, Visas, and papers indicating such..

The Crown Prince of Spain may be "obscure" to you, but that is not the case in the rest of the world..
If he were to come to harm, or be kidnapped, it would be an international incident of major proportions..
Guaranteed..

Possibly even an act of war...

124 posted on 04/10/2004 9:33:37 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: JesseHousman
I have changed my political affiliation to Monarchist, but for the life of me I can't decide who should be America's king.
This is Free Republic so the answer to that one is obvious.....LOL:

-Eric

125 posted on 04/10/2004 9:36:49 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: livius
I think the whole thing was probably handled very badly, and there was obviously nobody there initially who had the authority to resolve it. Miami is an important airport, and I think they should be better prepared for dealing with situations like this.

Exactly. There are perhaps a half dozen to eight major international airports in the U.S. One would think that at each and every one of those there would be both FBI and State Department offices manned 24/7.

I suspect that if there isn't it's the result of Dubya's lapse in common sense in holding over incompetents from the recent Trailer-Park presidency. Isn't it about time to correct that mistake? I would start with all of the State Department. That department should exist to serve first and foremost the interests of the United States. They don't agree? They can go work for the DNC.

126 posted on 04/10/2004 9:39:59 AM PDT by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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To: schaketo
''We're your allies!'' one member of the royal delegation shouted in Spanish to inspectors at a particularly tense moment.

Really? America currently has enough cowards claiming to be allies.

NATO still exists as a viable alliance.

-Eric

127 posted on 04/10/2004 9:41:27 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: JesseHousman
You'd would be more than a little surprised if you knew who I am.

Give it a rest. That line might work for a crown prince, but not here.

128 posted on 04/10/2004 9:41:33 AM PDT by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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To: B Knotts
His EIBness?

Lardass? Maybe as court jester, but try comparing that pill popping blowhard to Edward "Longshanks" Plantagenet. The latter was a real monarch. Remember, real monarchs hate.

129 posted on 04/10/2004 9:43:17 AM PDT by Archangelsk (Shall we have a king?)
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To: Drammach
The Crown Prince of Spain may be "obscure" to you, but that is not the case in the rest of the world.. If he were to come to harm, or be kidnapped, it would be an international incident of major proportions.. Guaranteed..

I wonder if the typical screener could recognize a fake diplomatic paper from someone posing to be some prince from some country ---- what if the Crown Prince of Spain was waved through but then the plane he boarded was blown up because someone posing as a Crown Prince of Ireland had also been waved through but had on him a bomb.

I doubt the screeners were all that rude --- he and the girlfriend probably started with the attitude "What!!! you don't know who we are??? you don't realize that we are important people???"

130 posted on 04/10/2004 9:43:28 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Drammach
Open mouth, insert foot.
Reading comprehension is a bitch. I suppose you consider yourself superior at it.

Read it again. He came in on a charter jet. He was leaving on Iberia Airline, where the flap occured.
Even trailer trash knows that Iberia is "Public Transportation".

As for the rest of the flap. I have three words: Formally established protocol.

131 posted on 04/10/2004 9:47:56 AM PDT by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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To: Darryl Newhart
Ya... PROFILING.

Muslim? Middle-Eastern? 17-44? Male?
DING! DING! DING!

That won't catch the sophisticated terrorists, who are the dangerous ones.

Even presuming we're talking about Muslinms, how tough would it be to take a black, Asian, Bosnian, or half Russian (European looking) 25 year old male and give him false credentials? If they could train him to speak with an American accent, he could even be given fake American credentials. Dress him in "business casual" clothes and you'll get past any "profile".

-Eric

132 posted on 04/10/2004 9:54:15 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: texasbluebell
Attended Engineering School with a lot of students from the Far and Middle East. They all struggled with English, didn't even think to call any of them "savage", but I'll try to do better next time.
133 posted on 04/10/2004 9:57:07 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Since when does "Diplomatic Immunity" apply to Royalty? Does he hold a Diplomatic Passport? Somehow I doubt it.

All right Chad. Go hide in the corner a while.
Your lack of education/experience or plain common sense if sorely showing.

Think about it. Do you think the Queen of England does not have diplomatic immunity? Hell, she doesn't even need a last name!

134 posted on 04/10/2004 9:58:25 AM PDT by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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To: JesseHousman
Spaniards have a difficult time understanding what Mexicans are saying.


Not any more than Minnesotans have trouble understanding what folks in New Orleans are saying.

Madrilenos probably have more trouble understanding their Andalusian countrymen speaking the same language than they do understanding a Mexican.
135 posted on 04/10/2004 10:01:10 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: mewzilla
"And it was pretty gutless of Penelas to apologize."

Not gutless.
He's just an automatic @ss-kisser.

Either that, or he sees himself as being Spanish first, American second, if at all.

136 posted on 04/10/2004 10:05:59 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Drammach
It's not "silly" to expect airport screeners and their supervisors to have at least rudimentary familiarity with international passports, Visas, and papers indicating such..

But how many countries are there? How many just in Africa, and how many in Europe, Asia, Latin America..... and how can anyone recognize all the papers from each individual country. If they took all the royalty from all the countries and mixed them up with thousands of other people from over the world --- could you really pick them out? The Crown prince of Uganda? Or his sister the princess? (if they exist) or the Crown prince of Thailand? Or of Belgium? I could probably recognize Prince Charles of England but not his siblings if I came face to face with them --- but I'm not even sure about that.

137 posted on 04/10/2004 10:08:29 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Publius6961
Just because one is royalty does NOT automatically grant themm Diplomatic Immunity. I seem to recall a recent case involving an abusive princess of the House of Saud who was arrested for beating her servant in Florida - Officials in Washington told the detectives investigating the case that she had Diplomatic Immunity and she could not be arrested etc, but that information turned out to be incorrect. She had not been granted Diplomatic Status by the United States - it's not an automatic thing, but must be granted by us.

I'd be curious to know if this Prince has been granted Diplomatic Immunity staus or not.

So bite me ;0)
138 posted on 04/10/2004 10:10:30 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (I havn't seen my therapist in 5 years. Neither has anyone else ;0))
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To: JesseHousman
As I understand it, what really ticked the prince off was that the screeners kept humming Moxy Fruvous' King of Spain while the searched the luggage.
139 posted on 04/10/2004 10:11:06 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Arlen Specter supports the International Crime Court having jurisdiction over US soldiers)
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To: Drammach
You're beating a dead horse, dude.
No matter who or where or when, diplomatic immunity works (except in sandmaggot countries) if the established protocol is followed.
It's not rocket science. The royal support entourage screwed up. End of story.

Your "examples" are all ludicrous. I pray that you have no role in any official diplomatic activities for our country!

140 posted on 04/10/2004 10:14:33 AM PDT by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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