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Panel Says Voting System Same As in 2000
Yahoo ^ | 4/9/04 | EMILY FREDRIX

Posted on 04/09/2004 7:21:03 PM PDT by NotchJohnson

WASHINGTON - When the nation turns out to cast ballots in this fall's elections, the voting system will be in no better shape than it was in 2000, a panel of voting experts said Friday.

Problems with electronic voting machines in this year's primaries illustrated that changes have been slow, despite the implementation of new standards meant to improve the system, panelists told the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights.

The commission, an independent bipartisan agency, has been examining the voting system since the 2000 presidential election, when the Supreme Court decided the outcome after voting problems in Florida and other states.

"Most states really won't be ready. We're ending up in '04 with the very same problems and issues that were there before," said Mary Frances Berry, committee chairperson. The group plans to study the issue of election reform in the fall, shortly before the November elections.

Congress passed the federal Help America Vote Act in 2002 and set new standards — such as requiring ID for first-time voters. The law forced states to look at using electronic voting machines instead of punch cards to avoid the problems with ballots that Florida encountered in 2000. But money to make the changes has been slow in getting to states. Forty-one states have received waivers giving them until 2006 to have computerized voter registration lists.

Because states must replace punchcard and lever machines, voting officials nationwide are buying electronic machines — many of which use touch-screen technology.

That alone doesn't solve the problem of inaccurate votes, said Michael Shamos, a computer science professor at Carnegie Mellon University. "They haven't rushed to educate people on how to properly use the machines, which is creating all kinds of problems," he said.

The use of computerized voting has prompted questions about security, reliability and whether or not paper trails should be used. More than a dozen states are considering issuing paper receipts for voters to verify before casting their ballots, but some voting experts warn that there still could be problems, such as discrepancies between those and the computerized ballots.

All this talk about technology and whether votes will even count could cause people to skip voting altogether, said Wade Henderson, executive director of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights. If people don't feel comfortable, they won't vote, he said.

But the possibility of widespread use of electronic voting could encourage people who are less likely to vote to cast a ballot, particularly minorities and the disabled, said Jim Dickson, with the American Association of People with Disabilities. Computerized voting would allow people to vote in different languages and make audio available so that illiterate and blind people can vote on their own.

Dickson, himself blind, said he voted on a touch screen without the help of another person for the first time in this year's primaries. In the 36 years he's been voting, Dickson said, he's had pollworkers who read ballots to him comment on his voting choices and even tell him that they weren't going to bother with reading a referendum to him since no one votes on those anyway.

Electronic voting may not be perfect, but it offers hope to people who otherwise might not be voting, he said.

"Every system messes up. Touch screens mess up the least," Dickson said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheats; crime; democrats; electronicvoting; liars; voting
This is good news. JFK's old man had the mob win him the Presidency. In 2000 the Democrats tried to steal the election. Voting machines were found in the backseats of cars. I remember some old hag saying she was willling to go to jail if she didn't get her way. And she was in charge of all this in Florida. Now who bets the Democrats have plans on how to cheat on this thing? By 2006 there will be 5 new books on the subject.
1 posted on 04/09/2004 7:21:04 PM PDT by NotchJohnson
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To: NotchJohnson; Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; knews_hound; ...
Short list.
2 posted on 04/09/2004 7:23:14 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: NotchJohnson
And like the voting system not being any better, neither will the voters be any more educated as to how to vote properly,(which has always been the goal of the leftist's at election time) then if the election is close they can claim disenfranchisment of their idiot constituency who can't pop out a chad, or vote for more than one candidate, or think a vote for Buchanan was really a vote for Gore. All we can hope for is that Dubya wins this election in a landslide so the foolishness of 2000 is not repeated.
3 posted on 04/09/2004 7:46:08 PM PDT by cabbieguy ("I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up")
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To: NotchJohnson
The same whining is going on in California. Apparently a couple of counties had problems. I voted on the new computerized machines in San Joaquin county. There were no problems in this county.

I think that the demonRATS are just scared that the new machines will keep them from cheating.

4 posted on 04/09/2004 8:06:22 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: NotchJohnson; farmfriend
Here is a story on the mess coming up in California if Kevin Shelly has his way http://www.times-standard.com/Stories/0%2C1413%2C127%257E2895%257E%2C00.html?...
5 posted on 04/09/2004 8:18:03 PM PDT by tubebender (My wild oats have turned to shredded wheat...)
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!
6 posted on 04/10/2004 5:56:55 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: NotchJohnson
The problem is that no matter what voting system is used, a large percentage of the democRAT base is just too stupid to vote.
7 posted on 04/10/2004 6:27:59 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: NotchJohnson
Electronic voting is scary^ indeed. As much as I like computers, this may be much worse than 2000. I hope President Bush wins in a landslide so there can be no doubt. The RATS are famous for vote tampering. The electronic machines will make it even easier for them.
8 posted on 04/10/2004 6:34:15 AM PDT by upchuck (Pay attention!! This tagline changes on an irregular schedule and without prior warning.)
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The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights is a fn' joke. As long as Mary Berry is in charge of it, it has no credibility. She is a vile human being who wouldn't let a appointed republican take his place on the commission. She well run the commission her way until she dies or is jailed. Can't wait for the day the either one of those will happen.
9 posted on 04/10/2004 10:11:08 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's floats, Mary Jo's don't!)
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