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To: sinkspur
Exchange One

To: DoughtyOne

He may have kept in close contact over the years, and sent support payments every step of the way.

He didn't. His ex-wife said so, and a judge agreed.

You seem to think that Terry's recent sordidness can somehow be separated from his relationship with his son.

A man who can "snap" as Terry did, and shack up with a woman who could be his daughter is not to be trusted, morally.

Why do you believe anything he says?

101 posted on 04/09/2004 8:00:00 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)

From the article you posted...

But earlier that same month, Mr. Terry had submitted an affidavit to a New York State family court on his financial condition. The court had ordered him to account for his finances in response to a petition Cindy Terry had filed earlier, saying that Mr. Terry was not paying a fair share of child support. In the affidavit, Mr. Terry wrote, "The past two years have been difficult financially for me.... I am three months behind in my rent, in addition to my numerous other debts. Since June, in order to pay necessities, we have been selling many items...."

In a May 7, 2002, order, the court noted that "Mr. Terry is possessed of actual or income-producing ability significantly greater than that which is set forth in his financial disclosure affidavits or [2001] Income Tax Returns," and ordered him to pay $75 more each week in child support.

I said he may have kept in close contact with the kids and paid child support all along.  You stated that he didn't.  You said his wife and a judge agreed on that point.  That is factually incorrect.  His wife said he wasn't paying 'a fair share' and a judge agreed.  The fact is he was paying all along.  As for a woman being able to go back and get more funds after a few years, it's just a matter of procedure.  It doesn't imply that the father has done a single thing wrong.  Family courts will strip the guy clean if he hasn't got a sharpie on his payroll, something few men can affort BTW.


Frankly, I'm having a hard time believing anything you say.


Exchange Two

To: DoughtyOne

Like I said before, Terry left his family for a reason. Something wasn't right there or he wouldn't have left.

His wife was in her forties, and he met someone in her twenties.

THAT is what wasn't right in Randall Terry's home! Little head over big head.

Could you please explain in 100 words or less why the other kids didn't turn homosexual when Terry wasn't there why they needed him?

Have they declared their sexual proclivities?

I'll bet they're not too fond of their "dad."

81 posted on 04/09/2004 7:43:48 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)


To: DoughtyOne

Please name the woman who was in here twenties. Thanks

Andrea. Her name is in the WORLD article I posted above.

104 posted on 04/09/2004 8:03:28 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)


From the article you posted.

Snippet One

Mr. Terry's critics also say many donors who receive the fundraising letters are likely to assume that the proceeds of the Terry Family Trust benefit Mr. Terry's four oldest children, along with Cindy Terry, his wife of 19 years. Instead, the Terry Family Trust is to help Mr. Terry get back into ministry and to benefit his infant son and his second wife, the former Andrea Kollmorgan. She was 22 and served as Mr. Terry's personal assistant during his failed 1998 New York congressional campaign. In August 1999, Mr. Terry left Cindy Terry, and obtained a divorce in November 2000. He married Miss Kollmorgan seven months later.

I'm not as convinced as you are that you have your facts straight.  On the surface one could surmise that Mr. Terry did strike up a fling with Kollmorgan and divorce his wife over it.  Let's look at what other data was availble in your articles.

Snippet Two

Letter of Church Censure: Randall Terry, November 6, 1999
1. For leaving his wife in preparation to divorce, annul or otherwise dissolve their Christian marriage, and for his unwillingness to repent of this sin we do hereby censure him.
2. For a pattern of repeated sinful relationships and conversations with both single and married women we do hereby censure him.


On the surface it looked like Terry struck up a relationship with Kollmorgan.  You have determined from these articles that he was having an affair with Kollmorgan.  Perhaps they were.  I'm not convinced at all that he left his wife to be with her.

Look at the articles of censure from the church.  ...for a pattern of repeated sinful relationships and conversations with both single and married women...

Who is to say which woman he left his wife for, or whether he actually left his wife for one woman?  He left his wife in August of 1999.  After he left her he evidently played the field quite a bit.  Otherwise the church would have to be inaccurate with their assertions.


The facts are that the marriage soured and Terry left the family home.  He probably had improper relations before and after he left home.  I don't know what caused him to venture outside the home anymore than you do.  It is certain that upon leaving the home he did have an active social life.  Wow, imagine that.  That's a first.

You stated that he left his wife for a lover, and that lover was Kollmorgan.  If that was true, then Kollmorgan would have had to put up with a lot of infidelities herself according to the church.  Perhaps you'd like to rethink this assertion of yours as well.

Terry married Kollmorgan in about May of 2001.  That's just three months shy of two years after he left his wife.


On this whole thread, you've been trashing Terry, for what reason I don't know.  You even steped over the bounds of truth to get at him.  Evidently you have nothing else to do, or perhaps your dog did a number in your favorite shoe.

The guy appears to be a flake, but I'm not sure what that has to do with his son.  He made his support payments.  I know that must frustrate the hell out of you.  For the record, you don't have the slightest idea what kind of a relationship he had with his son or his other children.

It was that fact that led me to wonder why you found it necessary to trash a man who made some pretty rational comments about a son who had gone public trashing him.

Are you that into defending homosexuals who come out, or is this just a special case?  Frankly I don't care.  I thought your information dump on this tread was unwarranted and I said so.

Later.

125 posted on 04/09/2004 9:07:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
On this whole thread, you've been trashing Terry, for what reason I don't know. You even steped over the bounds of truth to get at him. Evidently you have nothing else to do, or perhaps your dog did a number in your favorite shoe.

Doughty, if you want to believe, and follow, Randall Terry, be my guest.

I have not "stepped over the bounds of truth" in anything I've posted.

You don't like my exposure of Terry's recent escapades.

I don't like Randall Terry, and have never liked Randall Terry. He's a self-aggrandizing egomaniac.

Obviously, a middle-aged man leaving a wife of 18 years for a 22 year-old woman doesn't bother you.

It bothers me.

127 posted on 04/09/2004 9:16:29 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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